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New Albany Bought Guns Back. Will Louisville?

December 31st, 2012 by admin · 10 Comments

It’s the final round-up of the year. We’ll be back to normal on Wednesday.

A former University of Louisville football player has filed a lawsuit claiming he was asked to cover up an attack perpetrated by two of his teammates — and he claims his University and his coach failed to live up to their end of a bargain. [WDRB]

Remember Todd Eklof? He’s performing his first marriage since 2003! [Salon]

Louisville Metro Police were called to the scene of a stabbing in the 900 block of West Florence Avenue near Churchill Downs. [WHAS11]

Legislative leaders are at odds on whether to postpone the divisive issue of redistricting for another year to avoid gumming up an upcoming session already chock-full of hefty issues, including how to fix a $30 billion shortfall in a pension system for government retirees. [H-L]

A young man is murdered during the holidays and while police search for the shooter, the victim’s family is opening up. It happened Saturday morning in the Southland Park neighborhood. [WAVE3]

Greg Fischer has marked the mid-point of his term with the release of a report that highlights what he says are the achievements of his administration’s first two years in office. [C-J/AKN]

To continue the state’s health exchange, part of the Affordable Care Act, Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear will probably have to re-issue his executive order. [Business First]

Categorized, stacked and with firing mechanisms secured, the city’s (New Albany) first gun buyback program finished with 249 weapons purchased from residents Friday. [News & Tribune]

A man who pleaded guilty in the 1994 slaying of a University of Kentucky football player has been seriously injured in an auto accident. Shane Ragland was hurt Saturday afternoon in an accident that shut down part of the Snyder Freeway. [WLKY]

We’re closer and closer to hitting our goal and launching our new project. Consider helping make that happen because it’s so close we can taste it. [Support Our New Project!]

Tags: Bad Behavior · Death · Gays · Greg Fischer · Health Care · Indiana · Oops · State Government · Steve Beshear · University of Kentucky · University of Louisville

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  • 1 Gil // Dec 31, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    The question has been posed, “New Albany Bought Guns Back. Will Louisville?”

    And the answer from this reader, is probably, however it shouldn’t.

    Why you might challenge, well there are several reasons, the 1st is simply looking at the 2004 National Academy of Sciences Panel on/of Firearms and Violence which reported the following (Paraphrased)

    There is no credible evidence that “right-to-carry” laws, which allow qualified adults to carry concealed handguns, either decrease or increase violent crime. The NRA types hate this.

    There is almost no evidence that violence-prevention programs intended to steer children away from guns have had any effects on their behavior, knowledge, or attitudes regarding firearms. More than 80 such programs exist.

    Research has found associations between gun availability and suicide with guns, but it does not show whether such associations reveal genuine patterns of cause and effect.

    In fact I would argue that Louisville is already in possession of a much more effective tool for the removal of firearms from the street. It is the destruction of firearms seized by the police. This seems like a no brainer.

    However the legislature has deemed, under the the Law Enforcement Protection Program, which has been in effect since 1998, that proceeds from the sale of confiscated and seized are to be used to equip Kentucky law enforcement personnel with personal body armor and other equipment which enabled officers to better serve the citizens of Kentucky.

    Now the irony is that Louisville, specifically the LMPD, generates well over 60% of the weapons that are seized, and then are resold at rock bottom prices, making a very tidy profit for the gun dealers who in turn resell them (legally).

    Many of these guns then return to the property rooms of law enforcement throughout the state, if not the region or the nation.

    In return LMPD is supposed to receive money from the state to purchase soft armor for it’s officers, however very little of the money ever comes back to Jefferson County instead, as with most things in Kentucky, stays out in the Eastern half of the state.

    There is no argument that many small agencies have received much needed armor, which has a shelf life, however Louisville yet again gets screwed.

    And those gun buy back programs, guess what? If they are funded by government money those guns are again “sold” and placed directly out on the street. They make great PR, however do not work.

    Having the Metro Council ORDER the LMPD to obtain destruction orders from the judicial branch on most, if not all seized firearms, would in turn reduce the available number of weapons from the street. Simply using the numbers, this idea might work, but will take some political courage

    If you don’t believe me, open records request the LMPD for the number of guns sent each month to the state and the open records the KSP for the state wide records.

  • 2 G'town Reader // Dec 31, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    What the WHO?! Every time I click on the link to the WHAS11 story on a stabbing, I get an ominous warning page that it is an “ATTACK PAGE.” I even closed my browser & then came back. ATTACK!”

  • 3 Debbie // Jan 1, 2013 at 12:34 am

    I read the above posting by Gil and he is 100% correct on what happens to confiscated guns. It is a revenue maker being sold at auction. Gil’s solution is exactly what needs to be done and yes, it will take political courage.

  • 4 JTT // Jan 1, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Actually, I would challenge your assumption that the money goes mostly to other parts of the state. I know that other local agencies (other than LMPD) regularly get money from that fund for vests – the Sheriff’s Office outfitted their entire sworn staff a few years back, for example. There is a lot of state programs out there that LMPD chooses not to take advantage of – for example, did you ever think about where all the other police agencies in the state get their basic training and how it is paid for? Every property owner pays a tax on their property insurance, which is then divided between fire and law enforcement in separate stipend funds . Some of that money comes back to individual officers and firefighters, through their agencies, the remainder goes to pay for training for those two disciplines. But LMPD (and KSP and Lexington) choose not to make use of the basic training provided for, and paid for, by the state – despite the fact is is considered the number one training law enforcement training agency in the United States? Why?

  • 5 Gil // Jan 1, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    Actually JT when LMPD requested money for vest purchase the state only offered 10k. Given the sheer volume of weapons collected by LMPD and then sold, there should be a much higher return. It would be far more effective for Louisville if these guns were cut up.

  • 6 Gil // Jan 1, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    However I agree with the other issues on money spent unwisely.

  • 7 Debbie // Jan 2, 2013 at 12:17 am

    JTT asks a great question about why doesn’t LMPD use the training paid for by the state?

  • 8 Gil // Jan 2, 2013 at 6:42 am

    It is a great question and one I don’t have an answer for. However it does not detract from the fact that the weapons seized by LMPD would better serve Louisville if they were destroyed rather than sold by KSP

  • 9 Debbie // Jan 2, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Gil, do you know what happens to the weapons that ATF, US Marshall’s and DEA confiscate? What about the smaller police departments in Jefferson County and the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Deepartment?

  • 10 Gil // Jan 2, 2013 at 11:46 pm

    To the best of my knowledge all federally seized weapons are destroyed unless they have historical value

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