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Tolling Debacle Is Heating Up In Indiana

August 25th, 2010 by jake · 14 Comments

Michael Dalby, a member of Southern Indiana’s chamber of commerce, is supporting tolls. Shocking, I know, that a chamber of commerce would back such an effort and trash any alternative.

That’s all fine and dandy.

The real story, here, is the reader comments left at the News & Tribune.

Here’s a taste:

If you really did your research you would find that when the interstate system was built that the east end bridge was in the design. not a second downtown bridge.

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The American cities witnessing the highest economic growth rates abandoned these types of massive infrastructure projects a long time ago so that they can focus on solutions that really work in a 21st century economy.

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But please, Mr. Dalby, don’t let the facts get in the way of your chance of raining money down on your economic policy group! Don’t let the issue of families who depend on getting to work in Louisville wondering how they’ll be able to afford the tolls you love so much.

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So it’s Dalby using outdated knowledge, or just something more to his liking. How surprising.

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To understand how Dalby and company are using ‘data’ to manipulate rather than reveal the truth, one must understand that the American Transportation Research Institute is the ‘research’ arm of the American Trucking Associations, a trucking specific, big business lobbying group. Their mission includes ‘an emphasis on the trucking industry’s essential role in a safe, efficient, and viable transportation system’ even though other independent research regularly shows that trucking is a comparatively inefficient and less safe transportation mode.

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Does Mr. Dalby know more about transporation issues than the Transportation Department? Why does Mr. Dalby think he has the right to make this decision instead of our elected leaders?

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Baltimore’s light rail system cost less than $20 million per mile. If we build one bridge instead of two, we easily could afford over 100 miles of light rail throughout the region.

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Is Dalby trying to make it sound like Louisville voters want two bridges?

What then does Dalby say about the recent poll that showed a mere 14.5% of lively Louisville voters supporting two bridges?

The comments go on and on. Meanwhile, our business and elected “leaders” continue to ignore the will of the people.

Tags: 8664 · Business · Indiana · Newspaper · Ohio River Bridges

14 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Curtis Morrison // Aug 25, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    Amen.

  • 2 Steve Magruder // Aug 25, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Amen, and I’m not even religious.

    Anyway, Dalby is the President and CEO of 1SI.

    And the comments left in that article almost leave nothing to add.

  • 3 Stunoland // Aug 25, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    Hal Heiner has been talking about splitting this project for over a week. A poll comes out showing that 85.5% reject the 2 bridges ORBP and over 60% are against the downtown ORBP. The Courier writes a front page story about the shocking revelation of spaghetti junction tolls (we all knew that was coming) and the New Albany council votes for a resolution rejecting tolls. Still no response from the Riverfields bought C-J editorial board on the region’s, “most important civic undertaking.” Meanwhile the leadership in this city keeps digging a deeper and deeper hole to stick their heads in the ground so they can ignore public opinion.

  • 4 Roger A. Baylor // Aug 25, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    It keeps getting better. Last week, I asked this Facebook page question of Indiana House Rep. Ed Clere, a Republican, whose district includes New Albany.

    “Can you explain your position on tolls for the Ohio River Bridges Project? Thanks.”

    After four days without an answer, I asked again. This afternoon, both questions were deleted from his wall. I’d suggest that this signifies a stodgy oler generation’s unfamiliarity with social media, except that Ed is about fifteen years younger than me.

    The deeper one digs into this bridges thingy, the greater the stench.

  • 5 Roger A. Baylor // Aug 25, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    It keeps getting better. Last week, I asked this Facebook page question of Indiana House Rep. Ed Clere, a Republican, whose district includes New Albany.

    “Can you explain your position on tolls for the Ohio River Bridges Project? Thanks.”

    After four days without an answer, I asked again. This afternoon, both questions were deleted from his wall. I’d suggest that this signifies a stodgy oler generation’s unfamiliarity with social media, except that Ed is about fifteen years younger than me.

    The deeper one digs into this bridges thingy, the greater the stench.

  • 6 Roger A. Baylor // Aug 25, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    Apologies for the double post. Sticky fingers, maybe. And, that’s “older.”

  • 7 Laurie Spezzano // Aug 25, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    I smell blood in the water. It’s time to go in for the kill on the ORBP. Tyler, 8664, Curt, everybody, get organized and get LOUD now.

  • 8 Roger A. Baylor // Aug 25, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    Here’s an update on the Rep. Clere Facebook purge. After my questions were deleted earlier today, a friend write to ask why. It was deleted, too, and then several of us — presumably now on the eenemies list — were “de-liked” … the contemporary social media equivalent of being sent to the Gulag. This is really incredible. I have a column in the NA Tribune each week, and tomorrow’s is a rebuttal to the Dalby piece. I going to take a beating for this … but guess what? Someone’s got to tell the truth about this impending catastrophe.

  • 9 Steve Magruder // Aug 25, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Go Roger. Know that a great many people in the region have your back.

    Laurie, you’re spot on. I would ask everyone concerned about this issue in the region to not sit back and count on “the activists” to do all the heavy lifting. Everyone come out and have your say, please! We need your voices.

  • 10 bill // Aug 26, 2010 at 6:28 am

    The bottom line is this, We WILL have to pay tolls, people will bitch and whine about it and say “we will stop coming across the river as much” Then stomp and piss and moan and say we will vote against the people that voted for the tolls, and then come election time, vote these same idiots BACK in office, and then cross the river to go have dinner somewhere, and then bitch that they had to pay a toll to do it. After all, these are the same people that kept putting mayor mc cheese in office every 4 years!

  • 11 jake // Aug 26, 2010 at 7:34 am

    bill: exactly.

  • 12 Carter Burger // Aug 26, 2010 at 9:55 am

    Tell it all Bill, tell it all. Until we stop rewarding these dumbasses for not listening to us, they will continue to not listen to us.

  • 13 Roger A. Baylor // Aug 26, 2010 at 11:28 am

    All I have to say is this: Whenever NA’s city council takes the lead in anything remotely progressive, it’s a Kodak moment. Louisville’s Louisville. What we need right now is to know whether anyone in Jeffersonville and Clarksville has a pulse.

  • 14 Joey B // Aug 26, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    So why doesn’t somebody work up a plan and details and costs for where the rail stations and rail lines will go to make it more convenient than driving. Identify the properties that need to be bought, the utilities to be relocated, the businesses, etc. Then start the environmental process. It should only take about 10years or so.

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