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		<title>By: ab</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2010/03/30/greg-fischer-and-that-fancy-ice-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-101705</link>
		<dc:creator>ab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol lol !  Touche&#039; I really did mean to say co-inventor! Well I like Greg and his family, but you did try to help him and he didn&#039;t take your advice!  You can say to him what my brother says to me, &quot; right back in your face&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol lol !  Touche&#8217; I really did mean to say co-inventor! Well I like Greg and his family, but you did try to help him and he didn&#8217;t take your advice!  You can say to him what my brother says to me, &#8221; right back in your face&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: willy</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2010/03/30/greg-fischer-and-that-fancy-ice-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-99057</link>
		<dc:creator>willy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake;
I did read the entire story. 
Not to beat a dead horse but I quoted what Gore said. Quote -  &quot; I took the initiative in creating the internet&quot;  Spin it anyway you like. He said it and years later he still has to live with his  statement.  The additional section of the story was from someone elses opinion.  
Thanks for the call out/correction on the woman vs women. I sit corrected. 
Could care less about either of the Clintons or  their cocks except his cock is crooked and she is just a power seeking crook. No lost love for public liars or truth fabricators. 
Kinda gets use back to the Greg Fischer story again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake;<br />
I did read the entire story.<br />
Not to beat a dead horse but I quoted what Gore said. Quote &#8211;  &#8221; I took the initiative in creating the internet&#8221;  Spin it anyway you like. He said it and years later he still has to live with his  statement.  The additional section of the story was from someone elses opinion.<br />
Thanks for the call out/correction on the woman vs women. I sit corrected.<br />
Could care less about either of the Clintons or  their cocks except his cock is crooked and she is just a power seeking crook. No lost love for public liars or truth fabricators.<br />
Kinda gets use back to the Greg Fischer story again.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Magruder</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2010/03/30/greg-fischer-and-that-fancy-ice-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-99037</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Magruder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LouHI &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.historyandissues.org/louisville/viewtopic.php?t=1920&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;covered this in mid-February&lt;/a&gt;.

My personal conclusion was that &quot;this is a case of something akin to resume padding, which is really unnecessary and quite a shame as I think Fischer could just tell the straight truth and have a compelling story for his campaign. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LouHI <a href="http://www.historyandissues.org/louisville/viewtopic.php?t=1920" rel="nofollow">covered this in mid-February</a>.</p>
<p>My personal conclusion was that &#8220;this is a case of something akin to resume padding, which is really unnecessary and quite a shame as I think Fischer could just tell the straight truth and have a compelling story for his campaign. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you comprehend English (maybe you don&#039;t, as you can&#039;t differentiate between woman and women), you realize Gore didn&#039;t say he invented the internet.

And maybe you&#039;d read the entire thing instead of randomly commenting.  Here&#039;s an excerpt:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;small&gt;Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his 
role.  He said: &quot;During my service in the United States Congress I took the 
initiative in creating the Internet.&quot;  We don&#039;t think, as some people have 
argued, that Gore intended to claim he &quot;invented&quot; the Internet. Moreover, 
there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore&#039;s 
initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving 
Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and 
promoting the Internet long before most people were listening.  We feel it 
is timely to offer our perspective.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Further, what&#039;s with you folks and your obsession with Clinton&#039;s Cock?  It&#039;s 2010.  Can&#039;t deal with the reality that most high-powered people have a flock of pussy and bags of dicks following them around?  It&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you comprehend English (maybe you don&#8217;t, as you can&#8217;t differentiate between woman and women), you realize Gore didn&#8217;t say he invented the internet.</p>
<p>And maybe you&#8217;d read the entire thing instead of randomly commenting.  Here&#8217;s an excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p><small>Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his<br />
role.  He said: &#8220;During my service in the United States Congress I took the<br />
initiative in creating the Internet.&#8221;  We don&#8217;t think, as some people have<br />
argued, that Gore intended to claim he &#8220;invented&#8221; the Internet. Moreover,<br />
there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore&#8217;s<br />
initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving<br />
Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and<br />
promoting the Internet long before most people were listening.  We feel it<br />
is timely to offer our perspective.</small></p></blockquote>
<p>Further, what&#8217;s with you folks and your obsession with Clinton&#8217;s Cock?  It&#8217;s 2010.  Can&#8217;t deal with the reality that most high-powered people have a flock of pussy and bags of dicks following them around?  It&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: willy</title>
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		<dc:creator>willy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 03:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Replying to Bruce Maples;

Bruce, thanks for the link. Did you happen to read it? Backs me 100% . Al Gore is quoted as saying  in your link - 

&quot;During my service in the United States  Congress I took the initiative &quot;in creating&quot;  the internet&quot;  Say What?  I guess it is all how you read it but I read it as Gores intent was to brag that he created the internet.  As Jake would say - &quot;just sayin&quot; 

I know I am way off the Greg Fischer story but -kinda like Bill Clinton saying &quot; I did not have sex with that young women&quot;.  Oh really Bill?  As Jerry Seinfeld told Elaine when she asked when do you consider sex has taken place?  &quot;I&#039;d say it&#039;s sex when the nipple makes its first appearance&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replying to Bruce Maples;</p>
<p>Bruce, thanks for the link. Did you happen to read it? Backs me 100% . Al Gore is quoted as saying  in your link &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8220;During my service in the United States  Congress I took the initiative &#8220;in creating&#8221;  the internet&#8221;  Say What?  I guess it is all how you read it but I read it as Gores intent was to brag that he created the internet.  As Jake would say &#8211; &#8220;just sayin&#8221; </p>
<p>I know I am way off the Greg Fischer story but -kinda like Bill Clinton saying &#8221; I did not have sex with that young women&#8221;.  Oh really Bill?  As Jerry Seinfeld told Elaine when she asked when do you consider sex has taken place?  &#8220;I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s sex when the nipple makes its first appearance&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Maples</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Maples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 02:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just FWIW -- Gore never said he invented the Internet. While in office, he regularly pushed for funding for development and touted the importance of high-speed communication networks. Here&#039;s a defense of him by Vincent Cerf (who COULD be called the &quot;father of the internet&quot;):

http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200009/msg00052.html

FWIW, as I said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just FWIW &#8212; Gore never said he invented the Internet. While in office, he regularly pushed for funding for development and touted the importance of high-speed communication networks. Here&#8217;s a defense of him by Vincent Cerf (who COULD be called the &#8220;father of the internet&#8221;):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200009/msg00052.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200009/msg00052.html</a></p>
<p>FWIW, as I said.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I remember being told was that Servend, under Greg&#039;s rules added the ice-machine to the beverage dispenser that is common in most convenient marts today. That&#039;s what propelled the company to the position for sales for $$$ to Manitowac.
What Greg wants is recognition to feed the ego that starves.
Expect the same Metro gov&#039;t with more connected people as advisors and commitee members involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I remember being told was that Servend, under Greg&#8217;s rules added the ice-machine to the beverage dispenser that is common in most convenient marts today. That&#8217;s what propelled the company to the position for sales for $$$ to Manitowac.<br />
What Greg wants is recognition to feed the ego that starves.<br />
Expect the same Metro gov&#8217;t with more connected people as advisors and commitee members involved.</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be willing to bet Greg had more involvement with that fancy ice dispenser than Steve ever had with some fancy beads.

And Greg is light years more honest and capable of governing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be willing to bet Greg had more involvement with that fancy ice dispenser than Steve ever had with some fancy beads.</p>
<p>And Greg is light years more honest and capable of governing.</p>
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		<title>By: CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember how Steve Henry invented those anti-biotic medical beads for use in Desert Storm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember how Steve Henry invented those anti-biotic medical beads for use in Desert Storm</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gillenwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Gillenwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as an FYI since the quoted comment came from me:

Further research has revealed that SerVend was founded by another man even prior to Landers. They mostly built steel buildings in Sellersburg and Landers worked there, helping to run the shop. 

If I understand correctly, the original owner  looked at some ice machine concepts but never really strongly pursued them as a line of business. When Landers and a partner bought the business, they focused on ice machines with Landers patenting many designs as you mention. He still works for Manitowoc, the company to which the Fischers eventually sold.

Doesn&#039;t change the remaining facts: The Fischers did not found SerVend nor was Greg the primary technical brains behind the machines.

I chuckled when Fischer&#039;s first commercial changed the tune just enough to say he&#039;s &quot;helped grow&quot; several businesses. I&#039;m not sure what the rules are for factual claims in candidate ads but I&#039;d guess that&#039;s an attempt to avoid them.

If he just would have said that they identified a good thing and helped grow it with their investment, he could have still made himself look good for campaign purposes. Why he has instead chosen the other route is beyond me but disturbing, especially since his claims of transparency play such a big role in his bid.

Thanks for following up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as an FYI since the quoted comment came from me:</p>
<p>Further research has revealed that SerVend was founded by another man even prior to Landers. They mostly built steel buildings in Sellersburg and Landers worked there, helping to run the shop. </p>
<p>If I understand correctly, the original owner  looked at some ice machine concepts but never really strongly pursued them as a line of business. When Landers and a partner bought the business, they focused on ice machines with Landers patenting many designs as you mention. He still works for Manitowoc, the company to which the Fischers eventually sold.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t change the remaining facts: The Fischers did not found SerVend nor was Greg the primary technical brains behind the machines.</p>
<p>I chuckled when Fischer&#8217;s first commercial changed the tune just enough to say he&#8217;s &#8220;helped grow&#8221; several businesses. I&#8217;m not sure what the rules are for factual claims in candidate ads but I&#8217;d guess that&#8217;s an attempt to avoid them.</p>
<p>If he just would have said that they identified a good thing and helped grow it with their investment, he could have still made himself look good for campaign purposes. Why he has instead chosen the other route is beyond me but disturbing, especially since his claims of transparency play such a big role in his bid.</p>
<p>Thanks for following up.</p>
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