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	<title>Comments on: Americans United for Change Hits Humana</title>
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		<title>By: Jake2</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2010/03/02/americans-united-for-change-hits-humana/comment-page-1/#comment-88574</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

You may work for Humana, but you obviously have no clue how insurance works.  I strongly encourage you to find another profession.

You&#039;ve conveniently left off 3 important facts about High Deductible Health Plans:
1) You have the choice in deductible you choose, so it could have been as low as $1,250.
2) Your premium in a HDHP is LOWER than in a normal health plan, so you&#039;re paying LESS out of your paycheck.
3) Your plan came with a Health Savings Account deposit by your plan sponsor, so no, all up front costs aren&#039;t out of pocket.

It&#039;s unfortunate that you&#039;re working for a company that you find so abhorrent.  I honestly don&#039;t understand how you justify this to yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>You may work for Humana, but you obviously have no clue how insurance works.  I strongly encourage you to find another profession.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve conveniently left off 3 important facts about High Deductible Health Plans:<br />
1) You have the choice in deductible you choose, so it could have been as low as $1,250.<br />
2) Your premium in a HDHP is LOWER than in a normal health plan, so you&#8217;re paying LESS out of your paycheck.<br />
3) Your plan came with a Health Savings Account deposit by your plan sponsor, so no, all up front costs aren&#8217;t out of pocket.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate that you&#8217;re working for a company that you find so abhorrent.  I honestly don&#8217;t understand how you justify this to yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2010/03/02/americans-united-for-change-hits-humana/comment-page-1/#comment-88403</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for Humana and if the job market were better I would not. It is an immoral company in so many ways. As an employee we ahve a High Deductible Health Plan where families have to pay as much as $6,000 up front BEFORE our Humana insurance pays a DIME. 
We need health reform and we need it yesterday. Let the chips fall where they may, but soaring profits on a falling membership should tell everyone something!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for Humana and if the job market were better I would not. It is an immoral company in so many ways. As an employee we ahve a High Deductible Health Plan where families have to pay as much as $6,000 up front BEFORE our Humana insurance pays a DIME.<br />
We need health reform and we need it yesterday. Let the chips fall where they may, but soaring profits on a falling membership should tell everyone something!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark H (Not Hebert)</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2010/03/02/americans-united-for-change-hits-humana/comment-page-1/#comment-88317</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark H (Not Hebert)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason they and every other health insurer is looked at in a demonic light is that most Americans want, and think they deserve the best health care in the world, but don&#039;t think they should have to pay for it.  

Secondly, none of the profit reports being used to demonize the industry are broken down to show how much profit they made from administering health care and how much came from cutting costs, or the other diversified businesses and investments. 

Finally, the other huge reality that most people don&#039;t understand the concept that even with a 5-10% profit margin, private insurers can still administer health benefits more cost-effectively than the government.  As such, are we as taxpayers, willing to incur higher overall costs so that we can preclude a private company from making a profit.  And don&#039;t give me the CBO spin about cutting costs.  Every person in this country knows in their gut, that the government has never done anything truly cheaper and more efficiently than the private sector.  They are just able to bury the true costs.  You can certainly debate if the government can do it better, but there is no way that you can honestly say they can do it cheaper.  

Bottom line is that the technological advancement in medicine has outpaced our ability for most Americans to pay for it.  The highest rise in costs have been associated with diagnostic procedures, pharmaceuticals, and people in their last days of life.  The Obama bill does absolutely nothing to reduce any of those costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason they and every other health insurer is looked at in a demonic light is that most Americans want, and think they deserve the best health care in the world, but don&#8217;t think they should have to pay for it.  </p>
<p>Secondly, none of the profit reports being used to demonize the industry are broken down to show how much profit they made from administering health care and how much came from cutting costs, or the other diversified businesses and investments. </p>
<p>Finally, the other huge reality that most people don&#8217;t understand the concept that even with a 5-10% profit margin, private insurers can still administer health benefits more cost-effectively than the government.  As such, are we as taxpayers, willing to incur higher overall costs so that we can preclude a private company from making a profit.  And don&#8217;t give me the CBO spin about cutting costs.  Every person in this country knows in their gut, that the government has never done anything truly cheaper and more efficiently than the private sector.  They are just able to bury the true costs.  You can certainly debate if the government can do it better, but there is no way that you can honestly say they can do it cheaper.  </p>
<p>Bottom line is that the technological advancement in medicine has outpaced our ability for most Americans to pay for it.  The highest rise in costs have been associated with diagnostic procedures, pharmaceuticals, and people in their last days of life.  The Obama bill does absolutely nothing to reduce any of those costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posts like Metro Hack&#039;s show how incredibly uninformed the public is about economics and finance.

Insurance company profits, while high, are a DROP IN THE BUCKET of overall health expenses.  Premiums are rising because health expenses are rising.

For some reason, everyone likes to take aim at insurers.  Humana is a model corporate citizen that employs 9000+ professionals locally.  Make insurance illegal and you destroy Kentucky&#039;s economy.

Besides that, where is the criticism of the excessive expansion of local hospitals and doctor&#039;s offices (do we need 1 MRI machine for every 10 people in this city or an Immediate Care Center on every corner?) or the windfall profits that malpractice lawyers take every year?  What about the fact that Americans are increasingly less healthy yet have the ridiculous expectation that health care costs won&#039;t rise??

Here&#039;s a brief intro to how insurance works:  Premiums rise when health care costs rise.  Health care costs have been growing for years.  If all of the healthy people drop their individual coverage (as with Anthem in California) then the average cost of health care per member rises.  What does that mean?  PREMIUMS NEED TO RISE in order to pay for the services that the sicker population receives.  Insurance companies don&#039;t have the luxury of operating in the red like the Federal government does every year.  (By the way, the piper will need to be paid pretty soon on all of that too.  Thank you, Republicans and Democrats.)

Disclaimer:  I work in the industry so I&#039;m entirely biased.  Still, I have a brain and am better informed than 99% of the people who have an opinion on this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posts like Metro Hack&#8217;s show how incredibly uninformed the public is about economics and finance.</p>
<p>Insurance company profits, while high, are a DROP IN THE BUCKET of overall health expenses.  Premiums are rising because health expenses are rising.</p>
<p>For some reason, everyone likes to take aim at insurers.  Humana is a model corporate citizen that employs 9000+ professionals locally.  Make insurance illegal and you destroy Kentucky&#8217;s economy.</p>
<p>Besides that, where is the criticism of the excessive expansion of local hospitals and doctor&#8217;s offices (do we need 1 MRI machine for every 10 people in this city or an Immediate Care Center on every corner?) or the windfall profits that malpractice lawyers take every year?  What about the fact that Americans are increasingly less healthy yet have the ridiculous expectation that health care costs won&#8217;t rise??</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a brief intro to how insurance works:  Premiums rise when health care costs rise.  Health care costs have been growing for years.  If all of the healthy people drop their individual coverage (as with Anthem in California) then the average cost of health care per member rises.  What does that mean?  PREMIUMS NEED TO RISE in order to pay for the services that the sicker population receives.  Insurance companies don&#8217;t have the luxury of operating in the red like the Federal government does every year.  (By the way, the piper will need to be paid pretty soon on all of that too.  Thank you, Republicans and Democrats.)</p>
<p>Disclaimer:  I work in the industry so I&#8217;m entirely biased.  Still, I have a brain and am better informed than 99% of the people who have an opinion on this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Metro Hack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metro Hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make Health Insurance totally illegal.  They take 30 to 40% of our health dollars for their needless business.  Medicare as bad as it is administrated and as much corruption there is only takes 10% of our health dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make Health Insurance totally illegal.  They take 30 to 40% of our health dollars for their needless business.  Medicare as bad as it is administrated and as much corruption there is only takes 10% of our health dollars.</p>
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