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		<title>By: Jeff Gillenwater</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2010/02/09/woah-the-snowpocalypse-is-upon-us-again/comment-page-1/#comment-79793</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gillenwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beyond standing up against the bridges, I think Tyler scored politically when he mentioned Fischer as the only candidate allowed to respond. 

Will he and, if so, what will he or won&#039;t he say or commit to as a matter of public record? Is he willing to be as candid?  That and the C-J&#039;s bias toward Allen could play out many times throughout the campaign, regardless of particular issue. Some themes have been established.

I&#039;m not sure I agree about conversation being cheap, either. After so many years of taking Abramson&#039;s dictation, someone actually listening (and showing understanding) could quell some fears among several groups around town.

Whoever wins is going to have a hell of a time trying to rebuild something resembling a democratic infrastructure in Jerry&#039;s wake, if that&#039;s what they actually intend to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beyond standing up against the bridges, I think Tyler scored politically when he mentioned Fischer as the only candidate allowed to respond. </p>
<p>Will he and, if so, what will he or won&#8217;t he say or commit to as a matter of public record? Is he willing to be as candid?  That and the C-J&#8217;s bias toward Allen could play out many times throughout the campaign, regardless of particular issue. Some themes have been established.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I agree about conversation being cheap, either. After so many years of taking Abramson&#8217;s dictation, someone actually listening (and showing understanding) could quell some fears among several groups around town.</p>
<p>Whoever wins is going to have a hell of a time trying to rebuild something resembling a democratic infrastructure in Jerry&#8217;s wake, if that&#8217;s what they actually intend to do.</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2010/02/09/woah-the-snowpocalypse-is-upon-us-again/comment-page-1/#comment-79759</link>
		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to add this:  you&#039;ll note that Tyler got almost no press and zero longevity out of his presser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to add this:  you&#8217;ll note that Tyler got almost no press and zero longevity out of his presser.</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2010/02/09/woah-the-snowpocalypse-is-upon-us-again/comment-page-1/#comment-79756</link>
		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay.  Let&#039;s try this again:  8664 is over and done with when it comes to Tyler.  Everybody knows where he stands.  He needs to move on to other issues instead of beating the same drum.

The more he harps on 8664, the more bored folks get with him.  People are ready to learn about everything else the man stands for.

Making his first big presser standing up to the man about (essentially) 8664 was a waste.

It takes more than a conversation to win a mayoral race.  Talk is cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay.  Let&#8217;s try this again:  8664 is over and done with when it comes to Tyler.  Everybody knows where he stands.  He needs to move on to other issues instead of beating the same drum.</p>
<p>The more he harps on 8664, the more bored folks get with him.  People are ready to learn about everything else the man stands for.</p>
<p>Making his first big presser standing up to the man about (essentially) 8664 was a waste.</p>
<p>It takes more than a conversation to win a mayoral race.  Talk is cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis Morrison</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2010/02/09/woah-the-snowpocalypse-is-upon-us-again/comment-page-1/#comment-79750</link>
		<dc:creator>Curtis Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CJ can&#039;t call it the most crucial issue to our city and then criticize the only candidate that even understands it as being...a one issue candidate. This is usually the kind of mendacity that you would be all over. 

Tyler&#039;s campaign is not about telling us how he would fix our problems. Haven&#039;t we had enough of that?  Tyler&#039;s about listening to the incredible ideas that are currently stifled in our community.  And then acting, armed with knowledge and ideas.  It&#039;s about a conversation. If you don&#039;t get that, then you&#039;re not going to get Tyler Allen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CJ can&#8217;t call it the most crucial issue to our city and then criticize the only candidate that even understands it as being&#8230;a one issue candidate. This is usually the kind of mendacity that you would be all over. </p>
<p>Tyler&#8217;s campaign is not about telling us how he would fix our problems. Haven&#8217;t we had enough of that?  Tyler&#8217;s about listening to the incredible ideas that are currently stifled in our community.  And then acting, armed with knowledge and ideas.  It&#8217;s about a conversation. If you don&#8217;t get that, then you&#8217;re not going to get Tyler Allen.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Magruder (I, not D or R)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Magruder (I, not D or R)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not so sure that this was a bad move by Tyler.  His natural supporters need the red meat, and it works to reinvigorate that aspect of the campaign.  Also, people who weren&#039;t paying attention to the bridges matter before might be paying closer attention now due to the mayoral campaign, the C-J&#039;s biased posturing and the ongoing meetings of the bridges authority, whose members have all but pledged to pursue tolls as a predominant funding mechanism.

The bridges matter is clearly one of the biggest two issues confronting Louisville, the other one, economic development, and these two big issues are intertwined in many people&#039;s minds.  I know that economic development is another big area of interest to Tyler Allen, and I hope others in the community will get to hear more discussions related to that and in particular, pay attention to Tyler&#039;s answers.  I think many will like what they hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not so sure that this was a bad move by Tyler.  His natural supporters need the red meat, and it works to reinvigorate that aspect of the campaign.  Also, people who weren&#8217;t paying attention to the bridges matter before might be paying closer attention now due to the mayoral campaign, the C-J&#8217;s biased posturing and the ongoing meetings of the bridges authority, whose members have all but pledged to pursue tolls as a predominant funding mechanism.</p>
<p>The bridges matter is clearly one of the biggest two issues confronting Louisville, the other one, economic development, and these two big issues are intertwined in many people&#8217;s minds.  I know that economic development is another big area of interest to Tyler Allen, and I hope others in the community will get to hear more discussions related to that and in particular, pay attention to Tyler&#8217;s answers.  I think many will like what they hear.</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His positions are good.  He knows his shit.

All Tyler needs to do is take action on something that isn&#039;t related to 8664.  (That doesn&#039;t diminish its importance - but it&#039;s time to deal with the rest of the problems this city faces)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His positions are good.  He knows his shit.</p>
<p>All Tyler needs to do is take action on something that isn&#8217;t related to 8664.  (That doesn&#8217;t diminish its importance &#8211; but it&#8217;s time to deal with the rest of the problems this city faces)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Magruder (I, not D or R)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Magruder (I, not D or R)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said on Page One...

&quot;I do believe Tyler has communicated a broader message, but I would agree that it’s difficult to get that message communicated in this wide field, and with very little media interest at this point.&quot;

To which Jake responded...

&quot;

Tyler’s got a great message. One that would resonate with a ton of Louisvillians.

If he wanted to get his message out, he would. He’s got everyone under the sun encouraging him and offering to help him out. And there’s no shortage of talent ready and willing to hit the ground running for him.

He’s just gonna need to pull the campaign trigger. That’s all it takes.&quot;

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I think there&#039;s definitely food for thought for Tyler Allen&#039;s campaign, if not all the campaigns.  They all need to work on their message and expression of positions on the major issues confronting Louisville, and we need lots of detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said on Page One&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;I do believe Tyler has communicated a broader message, but I would agree that it’s difficult to get that message communicated in this wide field, and with very little media interest at this point.&#8221;</p>
<p>To which Jake responded&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8221;</p>
<p>Tyler’s got a great message. One that would resonate with a ton of Louisvillians.</p>
<p>If he wanted to get his message out, he would. He’s got everyone under the sun encouraging him and offering to help him out. And there’s no shortage of talent ready and willing to hit the ground running for him.</p>
<p>He’s just gonna need to pull the campaign trigger. That’s all it takes.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s definitely food for thought for Tyler Allen&#8217;s campaign, if not all the campaigns.  They all need to work on their message and expression of positions on the major issues confronting Louisville, and we need lots of detail.</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope.  Read it again.

What I inferred is that wasting time by attacking the Courier-Journal over their ignorant and corrupt decision to throw him under the bus (8664) is what stinks.  It does nothing for him politically.  He&#039;s been talking about the C-J for years.  Everybody already knows where he stands.  It did nothing for him politically, got him no new votes.

(I&#039;ve mentioned this portion in other comments and on other posts)  I know - for a fact - that Tyler&#039;s got other beefs with the C-J.  He wrote a letter several weeks ago that was critical of the paper for something…  else.  But what&#039;d Tyler do?  Sat on his hands terrified to send it.  Even after poking and prodding from people like Tina Ward-Pugh.

And I can&#039;t even count on two hands how many other matters he&#039;s been afraid to take action on.

I&#039;m merely politely mentioning what I know without having to drag your candidate through the mud with all the facts and behind-the-scenes dirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope.  Read it again.</p>
<p>What I inferred is that wasting time by attacking the Courier-Journal over their ignorant and corrupt decision to throw him under the bus (8664) is what stinks.  It does nothing for him politically.  He&#8217;s been talking about the C-J for years.  Everybody already knows where he stands.  It did nothing for him politically, got him no new votes.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;ve mentioned this portion in other comments and on other posts)  I know &#8211; for a fact &#8211; that Tyler&#8217;s got other beefs with the C-J.  He wrote a letter several weeks ago that was critical of the paper for something…  else.  But what&#8217;d Tyler do?  Sat on his hands terrified to send it.  Even after poking and prodding from people like Tina Ward-Pugh.</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t even count on two hands how many other matters he&#8217;s been afraid to take action on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m merely politely mentioning what I know without having to drag your candidate through the mud with all the facts and behind-the-scenes dirt.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis Morrison</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2010/02/09/woah-the-snowpocalypse-is-upon-us-again/comment-page-1/#comment-79732</link>
		<dc:creator>Curtis Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake. Did you just infer Tyler&#039;s stance on the bridges project &quot;reeks of an underlying fear of taking risks.&quot; And &quot;...Sitting on his hands?&quot; and &quot;Afraid to pull the trigger?&quot;

Are you serious? He just stood outside in the cold in front of the Courier-Journal building and publicly rebuked the arrogance of an institution that&#039;s been around since 1868. 
It&#039;s on youtube in case you, um, missed it. 
I think you&#039;re setting the bar kind of high, considering the other candidates haven&#039;t even responded AT ALL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake. Did you just infer Tyler&#8217;s stance on the bridges project &#8220;reeks of an underlying fear of taking risks.&#8221; And &#8220;&#8230;Sitting on his hands?&#8221; and &#8220;Afraid to pull the trigger?&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you serious? He just stood outside in the cold in front of the Courier-Journal building and publicly rebuked the arrogance of an institution that&#8217;s been around since 1868.<br />
It&#8217;s on youtube in case you, um, missed it.<br />
I think you&#8217;re setting the bar kind of high, considering the other candidates haven&#8217;t even responded AT ALL.</p>
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