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	<title>Comments on: River Fields: Panties All Atwist?</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/11/18/river-fields-panties-all-atwist/comment-page-1/#comment-64030</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how this will effect River Fields Mayoral Candidate Greg Fischer</description>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/11/18/river-fields-panties-all-atwist/comment-page-1/#comment-63922</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thinks its hilarious that someone stold LEO! They must be out of toilet paper at the River Fields office, because thats all Leo is good for anyway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thinks its hilarious that someone stold LEO! They must be out of toilet paper at the River Fields office, because thats all Leo is good for anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Magruder (I, not D or R)</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/11/18/river-fields-panties-all-atwist/comment-page-1/#comment-63899</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Magruder (I, not D or R)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, you don&#039;t know me very well, and on top of that, I do believe you&#039;re viewing these various matters through ideological lenses, while I tend to look at various issues based on the facts.  I am an independent, and I mean that.

The teabagger movement is a bunch of misplaced anger, in my view, and that&#039;s why it gets no support from me.

But it&#039;s good to see wide agreement on this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, you don&#8217;t know me very well, and on top of that, I do believe you&#8217;re viewing these various matters through ideological lenses, while I tend to look at various issues based on the facts.  I am an independent, and I mean that.</p>
<p>The teabagger movement is a bunch of misplaced anger, in my view, and that&#8217;s why it gets no support from me.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s good to see wide agreement on this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/11/18/river-fields-panties-all-atwist/comment-page-1/#comment-63887</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Magruder, I actually agree with you on a few points especially not playing by their rules. Interestingly that you mention pitchforks and people not using the ideas of the battle of the day. If I recall, you would have been mostly against the colonial revolutionaries since they used guns and force to expel the British imperialists. After all, I guess those teabaggers and Tea Party participants were just a bunch of rabble rousers and gun nuts that were interested in preserving their liberties. Interesting that somehow you&#039;re doing a bit of about face in standing up to the River Fields people. Actually, I think you&#039;re doing the right thing in that sense because obviously these people aren&#039;t interested in transportation policy or making this are more prosperous and instead want everyone under their thumb and remaining a backwater.

Kudos for your position which is quite different than some of which you have discussed before. Eventually, even you with your liberalism might end up being a libertarian or a tea bagger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magruder, I actually agree with you on a few points especially not playing by their rules. Interestingly that you mention pitchforks and people not using the ideas of the battle of the day. If I recall, you would have been mostly against the colonial revolutionaries since they used guns and force to expel the British imperialists. After all, I guess those teabaggers and Tea Party participants were just a bunch of rabble rousers and gun nuts that were interested in preserving their liberties. Interesting that somehow you&#8217;re doing a bit of about face in standing up to the River Fields people. Actually, I think you&#8217;re doing the right thing in that sense because obviously these people aren&#8217;t interested in transportation policy or making this are more prosperous and instead want everyone under their thumb and remaining a backwater.</p>
<p>Kudos for your position which is quite different than some of which you have discussed before. Eventually, even you with your liberalism might end up being a libertarian or a tea bagger.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Post Raoul! Just build it and get over it! I watched my parents neighborhood, Highland Park, get demolished with no concern for it&#039;s residents. Time to turn the page on the Genteel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post Raoul! Just build it and get over it! I watched my parents neighborhood, Highland Park, get demolished with no concern for it&#8217;s residents. Time to turn the page on the Genteel!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark H (Not Hebert)</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/11/18/river-fields-panties-all-atwist/comment-page-1/#comment-63879</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark H (Not Hebert)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, pulling the Madame DeFarge card out on Meme Sweets...

To quote Mel Brooks&#039; History of the World

&quot;These are my people, I love them....Pull!&quot;

Unfortunately, I don&#039;t think Meme looks like the piss boy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, pulling the Madame DeFarge card out on Meme Sweets&#8230;</p>
<p>To quote Mel Brooks&#8217; History of the World</p>
<p>&#8220;These are my people, I love them&#8230;.Pull!&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t think Meme looks like the piss boy.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Magruder (I, not D or R)</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/11/18/river-fields-panties-all-atwist/comment-page-1/#comment-63877</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Magruder (I, not D or R)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raoul Duke, thanks for your brave post.

We do have a community consensus, whether one supports the full ORBP, or 8664, that the East End Bridge needs to be built first, and as soon as possible.  What happens after that should be an open question for another day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raoul Duke, thanks for your brave post.</p>
<p>We do have a community consensus, whether one supports the full ORBP, or 8664, that the East End Bridge needs to be built first, and as soon as possible.  What happens after that should be an open question for another day.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Magruder (I, not D or R)</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/11/18/river-fields-panties-all-atwist/comment-page-1/#comment-63876</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Magruder (I, not D or R)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if anyone in the Louisville area will see River Fields&#039; LEO ad as anything but hollow propaganda from a pompous, snooty narrow-interest group. They should realize that when they oppose something supported by essentially the entire community, that most of us will refuse to play by their &quot;ground rules&quot;. The British were befuddled that American revolutionaries weren&#039;t playing by their ground rules for battle as well. River Fields pretends to want a calm discussion, but the time for that has long past, as they have proved this with yet another baseless, obstructionist lawsuit that will only cost us in the community millions, if not billions of more dollars of OUR money. Now is the time for PITCHFORKS. I wonder if River Fields is ready to deal with that.

River Fields -- Drop the suit!  Drop the suit! Drop the suit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if anyone in the Louisville area will see River Fields&#8217; LEO ad as anything but hollow propaganda from a pompous, snooty narrow-interest group. They should realize that when they oppose something supported by essentially the entire community, that most of us will refuse to play by their &#8220;ground rules&#8221;. The British were befuddled that American revolutionaries weren&#8217;t playing by their ground rules for battle as well. River Fields pretends to want a calm discussion, but the time for that has long past, as they have proved this with yet another baseless, obstructionist lawsuit that will only cost us in the community millions, if not billions of more dollars of OUR money. Now is the time for PITCHFORKS. I wonder if River Fields is ready to deal with that.</p>
<p>River Fields &#8212; Drop the suit!  Drop the suit! Drop the suit!</p>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/11/18/river-fields-panties-all-atwist/comment-page-1/#comment-63857</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many River Fields people are on Greg Fischer&#039;s  bandwagon? &quot;the elite for the elite&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many River Fields people are on Greg Fischer&#8217;s  bandwagon? &#8220;the elite for the elite&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark H (Not Hebert)</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/11/18/river-fields-panties-all-atwist/comment-page-1/#comment-63852</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark H (Not Hebert)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When they pass the anti-idling law, everyone east of River Road should just forward their ticketed fines to Riverfields for payment.

Once again NEPA and Section 106 of the HSPA are being utilized as weapons to keep development out of the East End.  

While any opposition I have is that Indiana is going to exponentially benefit more from the bridge and as such, could be forced to pay for more it through negotiations between the states, the cases put up by Riverfields have no scientific merit.  

The tunnel hopefully has been scrapped from the plan.  One of the main reasons to building the East End Bridge is to get hazardous materials out of the Hospital Curve area.  These would likely be prohibited from a tunnel as ling as the one they are proposing.  For a fraction of the cost, the historic complex interceding could be relocated elsewhere and preserved.  

This is about flexing muscles, feeling self-important, and protecting the enclave of Nita Yuma from the sound of down-idling truck traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When they pass the anti-idling law, everyone east of River Road should just forward their ticketed fines to Riverfields for payment.</p>
<p>Once again NEPA and Section 106 of the HSPA are being utilized as weapons to keep development out of the East End.  </p>
<p>While any opposition I have is that Indiana is going to exponentially benefit more from the bridge and as such, could be forced to pay for more it through negotiations between the states, the cases put up by Riverfields have no scientific merit.  </p>
<p>The tunnel hopefully has been scrapped from the plan.  One of the main reasons to building the East End Bridge is to get hazardous materials out of the Hospital Curve area.  These would likely be prohibited from a tunnel as ling as the one they are proposing.  For a fraction of the cost, the historic complex interceding could be relocated elsewhere and preserved.  </p>
<p>This is about flexing muscles, feeling self-important, and protecting the enclave of Nita Yuma from the sound of down-idling truck traffic.</p>
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