That said, I’ll make the neutral comment that all of these poles are crap at this point. Both sides of the debate (Dems and GOP) are fools to take anything from them since nobody knows what the hell the final bills are going to look like at this point.

Nobody can define what a “government option” is at this point, since there are four or more versions ranging from single-payer, to folding people into existing Medicare, to government-funded co-ops, to public triggers.

As such, to ask the public if they support a “public option” makes no sense since you are not defining what manifestation it will take. My guess is that there are many people who would support public co-ops that wouldn’t support a government run option, and vice versa.

I at least hope we have more than a few hours to review the final bill before it’s voted on, so we can at least figure out what’s in the final bill.

syvyn11, please worry about your own butt and stay off mine. It is a fact that 9/11 occurred on W.’s watch (just before he was on a one-month vacation and right before he had warnings that such an event was likely to happen). What an ass-protector he was, indeed. And my gratitude goes out to soldiers such as a close relative who have actually been in the Iraq war. Bush and Cheney saved their stinkin’ butts during the Vietnam war (Cheney with five deferments, while Bush somehow got lost in Alabama when he should have been flying jets over the “dangerous” Texas skies). Show your damn gratitude to those two heinous cowards. They will never get mine.

Not a single link you provided shares any evidence of a GOP health care plan. They’re merely suggestions of what they’d like to do, maybe, sometime, if possible.

Where’s the bacon, Horrrrrrrine? You can’t bring it… because it doesn’t exist.

I know it’s not the 1500+ pages of the Baccus bill, but…..

and it’s HORINE! one ‘r’ please.

And Jake, you know it’s bad when I’m the voice of reason.

Where’s the GOP’s health care plan? Pony up and quit with the wingnut spin.

Unfortunately for you, I’m not a regular viewer of Keith Olbermann or anything on MSNBC other than Morning Joe, hosted by Republican Joe Scarborough. But thanks.

In response to your ridiculous 9/11! 9/11! 9/11! assertion, read this:

The words, “Ever since 9/11…” should be enough to stop the con game right there. The mere thought of “9/11″ will forever raise a visceral, sickening gut reaction drilled deep into the psyche of Americans.

And it happened on George Bush’s protective watch. And it happened even though he was warned about it. Warned with specifics – “Bid Laden Determined to Attack in U.S.” is how his Presidential Daily Briefing was headlined. It even explained the use of flying airplanes into buildings. And George Bush ignored it. And the result was the first successful attack on U.S. soil by a foreign enemy in the history of America. And George Bush kept reading, “My Pet Goat.”

Meanwhile, 3,000 people died, and America has ceased to feel safe ever since. On George Bush’s watch.

To suggest that “George Bush kept us safe ever since 9/11″ is not ignoring the elephant in the room, it’s ignoring the elephant that rampaged through your house, killed your family and has its giant foot on your head, as you lay prostrate on the ground.

To suggest that “George Bush kept us safe ever since 9/11″ is like a football team celebrating a defeat because it won the game since halftime.

For the 100th time – you are not welcome to comment here, Horrine, if you cannot do so factually and without horseshit GOP talking points.

Like I said, we’ve been talking about it for years, since you only watch Olbermann, you wouldn’t see it. Also, since you have the votes, you can push anything through, right? All you guys lack in Washington, is the will.

And then please list all terrorist attacks on US soil AFTER 9/11.

And Dubya “kept us safe”?? HAHAHA! What the fuck kind of crack are you smoking?

Folks, please, if you’re going to comment? Maybe try to make sense and/or know what you’re talking about (or at least sound like you didn’t fall out of Glenn Beck’s ass)…

Try to show gratitude.

Not to mention that the Democrats are so in the tank for the trial lawyers, tort reform will never get to first base.

For you and your side, it’s universal or nothing.

Got news for you Jake, the majority doesn’t want a bureaucrat in the examination room with us and the doctor.