Comments on: The Context of Poorer, Blacker and Older http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/ a critical take on Louisville news Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:03:04 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Sirico http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/comment-page-1/#comment-51563 Sirico Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:06:55 +0000 http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/#comment-51563 How does ignoring black issues and trying to play the race card against a black candidate for president (Obama), NOT qualify for "trying to keep the blacks down"? How can you not make that connection? Remember these are BLACK REPUBLICANS that are making these statements against the REPUBLICAN PARTY. How does ignoring black issues and trying to play the race card against a black candidate for president (Obama), NOT qualify for “trying to keep the blacks down”?

How can you not make that connection?

Remember these are BLACK REPUBLICANS that are making these statements against the REPUBLICAN PARTY.

]]> By: Carter Burger http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/comment-page-1/#comment-51521 Carter Burger Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:44:20 +0000 http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/#comment-51521 Nothing in your cut and paste indicated that is is true, Sirico. Nothing in your cut and paste indicated that is is true, Sirico.

]]> By: Sirico http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/comment-page-1/#comment-51476 Sirico Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:16:29 +0000 http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/#comment-51476 -Maybe the Republicans have been cast that way because it is true. From The New Republicans: "The GOP’s inability to court the minority vote" By Steven Lee The party of Abraham Lincoln struggles to court the minority vote. For the past several decades, Blacks have supported the Democratic Presidential candidate overwhelmingly. In 2004, Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry won 90% of the Black vote. In 2008, the GOP lost 96% of the Black vote and 67% of the Hispanic vote. As Sophia A. Nelson points out in “It’s My Party, But I Don’t Feel Part Of It,” 2008 was “the worst showing for the Republican Party among minorities in its 150-year history.” How will the party redefine itself moving forward in order to attract the minority vote? Nelson, a black Republican, says the party must confront its poor relationship with black Americans. In the 2008 GOP convention, only 36 of the 2,000 delegates were black. Former Maryland lieutenant governor Michael Steele, a black Republican, recently said that the Republican party does not concern itself with issues affecting blacks. Although she identifies herself as Republican, Nelson voted for Obama in 2008 after “struggling with [her] conscience.” In her words, she was dismayed by the “racially coded Republican ads and speeches aimed at scaring working-class and rural white voters about Obama.” -Maybe the Republicans have been cast that way because it is true.

From The New Republicans:

“The GOP’s inability to court the minority vote”

By Steven Lee

The party of Abraham Lincoln struggles to court the minority vote. For the past several decades, Blacks have supported the Democratic Presidential candidate overwhelmingly. In 2004, Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry won 90% of the Black vote. In 2008, the GOP lost 96% of the Black vote and 67% of the Hispanic vote. As Sophia A. Nelson points out in “It’s My Party, But I Don’t Feel Part Of It,” 2008 was “the worst showing for the Republican Party among minorities in its 150-year history.”

How will the party redefine itself moving forward in order to attract the minority vote?

Nelson, a black Republican, says the party must confront its poor relationship with black Americans. In the 2008 GOP convention, only 36 of the 2,000 delegates were black. Former Maryland lieutenant governor Michael Steele, a black Republican, recently said that the Republican party does not concern itself with issues affecting blacks.

Although she identifies herself as Republican, Nelson voted for Obama in 2008 after “struggling with [her] conscience.” In her words, she was dismayed by the “racially coded Republican ads and speeches aimed at scaring working-class and rural white voters about Obama.”

]]> By: Carter Burger http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/comment-page-1/#comment-51471 Carter Burger Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:39:19 +0000 http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/#comment-51471 I keep waiting for the day for blacks to wake up and realize that Democrats are not their friends like they propose to be. The Republican Party was created in opposition to the expansion of slavery into Kansas. Democratic governors like Orval Faubus of Arkansas, Lester Maddox of Georgia, and, George Wallace of Alabama all fought integration. Ironicly, the Republicans have, in recent years, allowed the Democrats to cast them as the party trying to keep the blacks down. I keep waiting for the day for blacks to wake up and realize that Democrats are not their friends like they propose to be.

The Republican Party was created in opposition to the expansion of slavery into Kansas. Democratic governors like Orval Faubus of Arkansas, Lester Maddox of Georgia, and, George Wallace of Alabama all fought integration. Ironicly, the Republicans have, in recent years, allowed the Democrats to cast them as the party trying to keep the blacks down.

]]> By: slim http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/comment-page-1/#comment-51459 slim Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:03:44 +0000 http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/#comment-51459 My question for Jerry is this: How many blacks are too many? My question for Jerry is this: How many blacks are too many?

]]> By: boo hoo http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/comment-page-1/#comment-51423 boo hoo Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:20:10 +0000 http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/#comment-51423 The general conditions past 7th street are due to the people who live there and don't take care of their neighborhood. The mayor can't go door to door and say, hey you, quit sitting on that porch all day drinking 40's and smoking dope out in the open, clean up that garbage, stop letting your kids run wild in the streets, etc. People with any care about themselves or their community would step up and take care of that themselves instead of always blaming a politician. You do not see people east of Bardstown rd acting that way because they care about the place they live and want it to be nice. The general conditions past 7th street are due to the people who live there and don’t take care of their neighborhood. The mayor can’t go door to door and say, hey you, quit sitting on that porch all day drinking 40′s and smoking dope out in the open, clean up that garbage, stop letting your kids run wild in the streets, etc. People with any care about themselves or their community would step up and take care of that themselves instead of always blaming a politician. You do not see people east of Bardstown rd acting that way because they care about the place they live and want it to be nice.

]]> By: Chuck http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/comment-page-1/#comment-51419 Chuck Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:56:58 +0000 http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/#comment-51419 Since Jerry is a jerk, it doesn't surprise me that he would say that. He's been spending decades refining how to be an arrogant jerk. There is a lot of disdain from the mayor towards the poorer part of the city. Its been evident throughout the years. How many trips does he do to community conversations in say Portland or Shawnee or Parkland. He has the black vote for his own purposes. He uses those folks to get what he wants and if that is 6 terms as mayor of Louisville. He doesn't care and you can see it in the general conditions of anywhere west of 7th street. Its the rundown buildings, the crumbling factories, the closure of businesses, and all social ills going with that. I remember that things even in the 60s and 70s were much different. All hell broke loose when they wiped out the local black business community back in the 50s and 60s and were doing red lining. That is when the crime issues started in the West End plus the white flight which was encouraged by certain powerful people in the business community. That way they could split us up into three different jurisdictions. Sure it was all Jefferson Co. but still there is a class and racial distinction to all these areas being that the average income east of Bardstown Road is 85000 or more. The West End is in the mid 20s to mid 40s. And the South End mid 30s to mid 50s. They have done this division for a reason. Mayor Jerry has followed their plans well. He gets the Democrat vote by saying the right things but acts more like a neocon Republican. Since Jerry is a jerk, it doesn’t surprise me that he would say that. He’s been spending decades refining how to be an arrogant jerk. There is a lot of disdain from the mayor towards the poorer part of the city. Its been evident throughout the years. How many trips does he do to community conversations in say Portland or Shawnee or Parkland.

He has the black vote for his own purposes. He uses those folks to get what he wants and if that is 6 terms as mayor of Louisville. He doesn’t care and you can see it in the general conditions of anywhere west of 7th street. Its the rundown buildings, the crumbling factories, the closure of businesses, and all social ills going with that. I remember that things even in the 60s and 70s were much different. All hell broke loose when they wiped out the local black business community back in the 50s and 60s and were doing red lining. That is when the crime issues started in the West End plus the white flight which was encouraged by certain powerful people in the business community. That way they could split us up into three different jurisdictions. Sure it was all Jefferson Co. but still there is a class and racial distinction to all these areas being that the average income east of Bardstown Road is 85000 or more. The West End is in the mid 20s to mid 40s. And the South End mid 30s to mid 50s. They have done this division for a reason. Mayor Jerry has followed their plans well. He gets the Democrat vote by saying the right things but acts more like a neocon Republican.

]]> By: tired http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/comment-page-1/#comment-51395 tired Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:39:15 +0000 http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/#comment-51395 I'm so tired of no one being able to make a freakn comment with out someone screaming they are racist! dang. the truth is the truth, if he would have said whiter, no one would have said a darn word about it. no, not all blacks are poor, not all whites are poor. but it is what it is in certain areas and that's just the simple truth. GET OVER IT ALREADY AND STOP USING THE RACE CARD!!!!! I’m so tired of no one being able to make a freakn comment with out someone screaming they are racist! dang. the truth is the truth, if he would have said whiter, no one would have said a darn word about it. no, not all blacks are poor, not all whites are poor. but it is what it is in certain areas and that’s just the simple truth. GET OVER IT ALREADY AND STOP USING THE RACE CARD!!!!!

]]> By: Archie Bunker http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/comment-page-1/#comment-51338 Archie Bunker Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:52:19 +0000 http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/#comment-51338 Maybe his "blacker" comment was intended to illustrate the need for diversity in the city? Maybe his “blacker” comment was intended to illustrate the need for diversity in the city?

]]> By: TaxMan http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/comment-page-1/#comment-51329 TaxMan Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:52:23 +0000 http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/13/the-context-of-poorer-blacker-and-older/#comment-51329 That is the most racist thing I have ever heard (is what you would hear if those comments came from the mouth of a Republican). Since they did not, let's just say those comments were "unfortunate" That is the most racist thing I have ever heard (is what you would hear if those comments came from the mouth of a Republican).

Since they did not, let’s just say those comments were “unfortunate”

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