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		<title>By: keatssycamore</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/10/things-get-a-little-crazier/comment-page-1/#comment-51071</link>
		<dc:creator>keatssycamore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Hawpe Out

Jake&#039;s 2nd comment above is the answer to BigD&#039;s question (not that I really think BigD is actually trying to understand the things he&#039;s asking questions about):

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I think he has a knack for just being a total embarrassment.

Has nothing to do with politics. You don’t have to be a partisan to recognize it.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Exactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Hawpe Out</p>
<p>Jake&#8217;s 2nd comment above is the answer to BigD&#8217;s question (not that I really think BigD is actually trying to understand the things he&#8217;s asking questions about):</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I think he has a knack for just being a total embarrassment.</p>
<p>Has nothing to do with politics. You don’t have to be a partisan to recognize it.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: DB</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/10/things-get-a-little-crazier/comment-page-1/#comment-51069</link>
		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does that mean thatdisliking Democrat bullshit dosen&#039;&#039;t make one a conservative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does that mean thatdisliking Democrat bullshit dosen&#8221;t make one a conservative?</p>
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		<title>By: Cantinflas</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/10/things-get-a-little-crazier/comment-page-1/#comment-51052</link>
		<dc:creator>Cantinflas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Hawpe  &#039;working to get where he is from the bottom up,&#039; - all the way up to - &lt;i&gt;and only to&lt;/i&gt; - the &lt;i&gt;Courier-Journal&lt;i&gt;? Doesn&#039;t say much about his vaunted journalistic abilities now, does it?

That&#039;s like saying Bette Baye had to leave NYC and come all the way to Louisville to succeed. 

I thought if you &quot;could make it there, you could make it anywhere.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Hawpe  &#8216;working to get where he is from the bottom up,&#8217; &#8211; all the way up to &#8211; <i>and only to</i> &#8211; the <i>Courier-Journal</i><i>? Doesn&#8217;t say much about his vaunted journalistic abilities now, does it?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s like saying Bette Baye had to leave NYC and come all the way to Louisville to succeed. </p>
<p>I thought if you &#8220;could make it there, you could make it anywhere.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/10/things-get-a-little-crazier/comment-page-1/#comment-51051</link>
		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he has a knack for just being a total embarrassment.

Has nothing to do with politics.  You don&#039;t have to be a partisan to recognize it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he has a knack for just being a total embarrassment.</p>
<p>Has nothing to do with politics.  You don&#8217;t have to be a partisan to recognize it.</p>
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		<title>By: BigD</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/10/things-get-a-little-crazier/comment-page-1/#comment-51049</link>
		<dc:creator>BigD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So basically he has a nack for ticking both parties off at the same time. Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically he has a nack for ticking both parties off at the same time. Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Magruder (I, not D or R)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Magruder (I, not D or R)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, my three main beefs with Hawpe are:

1) The juvenile language he frequently uses against politicians or groups he disagrees with.  If he is a liberal, he doesn&#039;t do a very good job promoting the liberal brand.  I am ashamed to be liberal every time I read his editorials.

2) His head is up Mayor Jer&#039;s arse.  Mayor Jer is no liberal -- he is a corporate brown-noser and according to this newspaper, never does anything wrong.

3) He has maligned the 8664 campaign in a very unfair manner.  This is due to #2 and that, in my _opinion_ (to avoid Hawpe&#039;s litigious bent), he has allowed River Fields (ardently opposed to the East End Bridge that 8664 supports) to get a toehold on the editorial board.  And this is all to the community&#039;s detriment, but Hawpe doesn&#039;t care about our community&#039;s future as long as he can curry favor with the mayor and peculiar East End interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, my three main beefs with Hawpe are:</p>
<p>1) The juvenile language he frequently uses against politicians or groups he disagrees with.  If he is a liberal, he doesn&#8217;t do a very good job promoting the liberal brand.  I am ashamed to be liberal every time I read his editorials.</p>
<p>2) His head is up Mayor Jer&#8217;s arse.  Mayor Jer is no liberal &#8212; he is a corporate brown-noser and according to this newspaper, never does anything wrong.</p>
<p>3) He has maligned the 8664 campaign in a very unfair manner.  This is due to #2 and that, in my _opinion_ (to avoid Hawpe&#8217;s litigious bent), he has allowed River Fields (ardently opposed to the East End Bridge that 8664 supports) to get a toehold on the editorial board.  And this is all to the community&#8217;s detriment, but Hawpe doesn&#8217;t care about our community&#8217;s future as long as he can curry favor with the mayor and peculiar East End interests.</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/10/things-get-a-little-crazier/comment-page-1/#comment-51037</link>
		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how you just continually make shit up.  (Just went back and read all the comments you&#039;ve left over the past several months)

Thanks for spinning with your typical &quot;liberal&quot; argument.

Disliking Republican bullshit does not make one a liberal.  And being a liberal does not make one aligned with the worthless rag the Courier-Journal has become.

Anne Northup has one R.  If you&#039;re a conservative, as you proclaim, you&#039;d know how to spell her name by now?  (What is it with Republicans calling her NorthRup?)

The Kentucky Democratic Party gets no love from us.  Nor do most Democrats.

Small thrill?  Let&#039;s get real.  David Hawpe has been increasingly spreading horse shit the past couple years.  Both on the editorial board and with reporters, who routinely catch heat from him when they step out of line and bother reporting actual facts that upset him.

Fact of the matter is we dislike the C-J because of its abysmal job performance.  While &quot;conservatives&quot; dislike the C-J because the paper doesn&#039;t swallow GOP talking points hook, line and sinker.  (That mean librul media)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how you just continually make shit up.  (Just went back and read all the comments you&#8217;ve left over the past several months)</p>
<p>Thanks for spinning with your typical &#8220;liberal&#8221; argument.</p>
<p>Disliking Republican bullshit does not make one a liberal.  And being a liberal does not make one aligned with the worthless rag the Courier-Journal has become.</p>
<p>Anne Northup has one R.  If you&#8217;re a conservative, as you proclaim, you&#8217;d know how to spell her name by now?  (What is it with Republicans calling her NorthRup?)</p>
<p>The Kentucky Democratic Party gets no love from us.  Nor do most Democrats.</p>
<p>Small thrill?  Let&#8217;s get real.  David Hawpe has been increasingly spreading horse shit the past couple years.  Both on the editorial board and with reporters, who routinely catch heat from him when they step out of line and bother reporting actual facts that upset him.</p>
<p>Fact of the matter is we dislike the C-J because of its abysmal job performance.  While &#8220;conservatives&#8221; dislike the C-J because the paper doesn&#8217;t swallow GOP talking points hook, line and sinker.  (That mean librul media)</p>
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		<title>By: Ann All</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The op-ed pages were once where journalists went to get old and fat. Seems like a lot fewer of them will get that luxury in this economy. As w/ most large dailies, there are too many folks at the CJ whose salaries far outweigh their job responsibilities/contributions. W/ ad business eroding, it&#039;s hard to argue for keeping those folks on the payroll. Bloggers (myself included) generally crank out some copy every day. For the most part, the content on the CJ&#039;s blogs isn&#039;t freshened nearly enough. Also, iit&#039;s easy to see they are simply recycling the dwindling #s of local pieces written for print by using in multiple places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The op-ed pages were once where journalists went to get old and fat. Seems like a lot fewer of them will get that luxury in this economy. As w/ most large dailies, there are too many folks at the CJ whose salaries far outweigh their job responsibilities/contributions. W/ ad business eroding, it&#8217;s hard to argue for keeping those folks on the payroll. Bloggers (myself included) generally crank out some copy every day. For the most part, the content on the CJ&#8217;s blogs isn&#8217;t freshened nearly enough. Also, iit&#8217;s easy to see they are simply recycling the dwindling #s of local pieces written for print by using in multiple places.</p>
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		<title>By: citizen</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/07/10/things-get-a-little-crazier/comment-page-1/#comment-51035</link>
		<dc:creator>citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Hawpe is self serving. That is why he needs to go. He valued his YMCA buddy friendship with Daeschner over doing his job of informing the public ,which negatively affected the fate of many children who have suffered from being ill prepared by JCPS to live productive adult lives. But, hey, as long as the well connected have Manual and Male, all he had to do was &quot;keep the Indians on the reservation&quot;, right David? Ignore all that anonymous crap, right David?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Hawpe is self serving. That is why he needs to go. He valued his YMCA buddy friendship with Daeschner over doing his job of informing the public ,which negatively affected the fate of many children who have suffered from being ill prepared by JCPS to live productive adult lives. But, hey, as long as the well connected have Manual and Male, all he had to do was &#8220;keep the Indians on the reservation&#8221;, right David? Ignore all that anonymous crap, right David?</p>
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		<title>By: BigD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised that the Ville Voice or any Liberal slanted individual would want David Hawpe gone from the CJ. From what I read from both David and here, your views and ideologies are similar.

You both love the new Golden Boy Jack. I&#039;m quite sure you couldn&#039;t have enjoyed seeing Anne Northrup run out any more than David. And the Democratic Party in this state will have lost one of it&#039;s staunchest advocates and apologists.

Maybe he doesn&#039;t look at blogging as &quot;real&quot; reporting, but in all fairness he has been at the CJ literally all his life, and has worked to get where he is from the bottom up. Certainly he has paid his dues to get where he is at and I can see where he might have a different perspective on what Journalism is than you or I.

I can understand the small thrill from a conservative point of view. But not sure where a liberal would find any sense of enjoyment from him moving on.

As a conservative I just don&#039;t understand your take on the whole thing. Maybe he just has a nack for ticking everyone off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised that the Ville Voice or any Liberal slanted individual would want David Hawpe gone from the CJ. From what I read from both David and here, your views and ideologies are similar.</p>
<p>You both love the new Golden Boy Jack. I&#8217;m quite sure you couldn&#8217;t have enjoyed seeing Anne Northrup run out any more than David. And the Democratic Party in this state will have lost one of it&#8217;s staunchest advocates and apologists.</p>
<p>Maybe he doesn&#8217;t look at blogging as &#8220;real&#8221; reporting, but in all fairness he has been at the CJ literally all his life, and has worked to get where he is from the bottom up. Certainly he has paid his dues to get where he is at and I can see where he might have a different perspective on what Journalism is than you or I.</p>
<p>I can understand the small thrill from a conservative point of view. But not sure where a liberal would find any sense of enjoyment from him moving on.</p>
<p>As a conservative I just don&#8217;t understand your take on the whole thing. Maybe he just has a nack for ticking everyone off.</p>
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