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• 1 Shane // Jun 10, 2009 at 5:03 pm

  Ziegler was waaaay too big for this town and I’m surprised he lasted as long as he did here, but you have to give him credit for telling it like it is. The fact that he’s in LA now doesn’t surprise me.

• 2 Punditarod // Jun 10, 2009 at 6:15 pm

  When Ziegler was still in town I was invited to a party where the host made it a point to advise that Ziegler would be present, as if that would be enticement. I’d only heard of Ziegler and had neither heard his voice nor seen a photo of him. When I walked into a room with maybe 20-25 people, it was obvious immediately which one was Ziegler. He certainly has a presence. His overbearing persona was immediately in play. I stood and watched from the other side of the room. Sometime later at the party, I was in the same small group as he was and we were introduced. The first words out of his mouth to me were, “You don’t like me. I saw you watching me from across the room.” He was right, of course, I find him a boor of the highest order. I am also fascinated by his personality, which I find frankly somewhat sad. He seems to have this unyielding need to be the center of attention and, however his personality has developed, he garners the spotlight by purposely being arrogant and pissing people off. The guy has chosen to be a jerk and is trying to ride that to fame, fortune and influence. Hope he never comes back here to visit.

• 3 KYGuy // Jun 10, 2009 at 7:04 pm

  Shane – Ziegler is not “telling it like it is.” I give him no credit at all. Never have – never will. Ziegler is not out of Louisville because he was too “big” for it, Louisville called him on his bullshit and ran him out on a rail. He’s a sociopath.

  By the way Rick – Contessa, while pretty exasperated, didn’t ask that his mic be cut because of what he was saying, it was the fact that she had already started her transition and the producer hadn’t killed the idiot’s mic.

  The puzzlement to me is why, why, why does MSNBC feel they have to use Ziegler as a talking head? Cable news sucks. I believe Obama when he says he doesn’t watch it. It IS like the WWF. Everyone’s playing a role in the play. Show bookers and producers sit down and decide what the script is, then they populate it with “actors” to play the roles. Each actor is told what his or her role will be when they’re called. Some of the best and brightest are starting to tell the cable bookers to stick it. Ziegler is not one of them. There is no camera to which he will not run.

• 4 TaxMan // Jun 10, 2009 at 7:15 pm

  According to the state media (MSNBC)

  Not insulting – being called “slutty”

  Insulting – Not answering Contessa Brewers questions to her satisfaction.

  On top of that, you all think Ziegler is out of line!!! Its amazing how people political zealotry overrides common sense with so many people.

• 5 Steve Magruder (I, not D or R) // Jun 10, 2009 at 7:43 pm

  Ziegler’s ego is too big to hold down _any_ job, so he makes a fakumentary about Sarah Palin that trashes everything that ever dared rightly criticize the Queen. He’s on a big ol’ quest to sell-sell-sell it, with a big smile, even while irreverent, irrelevant and psychopathic in his pursuit.

  You say you’re reasonable? Well, Z is here to trash you, with a smile.

• 6 KYGuy // Jun 10, 2009 at 8:06 pm

  Taxman

  State run media huh? Listen to Rush much?

  The slutty line IS comedy. Just because it’s skewering your queen is why you don’t like it. I didn’t like “Barack, the magic negro” either. But it was comedy, right?

  Here ya go.
  Take a look at the real Ziegler. An extraordinary jerk.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQqLPJvk3gM

• 7 Crutnacker // Jun 10, 2009 at 9:09 pm

  Okay, let’s get this straight. John Ziegler, the misogynist (watch his dating special) who got on his radio show and told everyone about how Darcie Divita was groomed in her pubic area is claiming outrage that David Letterman made a joke about Sarah Palin’s slutty look. (Let’s face it kids, that’s the look Sarah’s goin’ for, don’t ya’ know.)

  John Ziegler is an opportunist and not a true believer in anything. His behavior suggests a self loathing, mentally disturbed individual who craves being the center of attention.

  Every appearance he makes is not statements of facts or even answering questions, but merely issuing statements that aren’t true about a so-called media conspiracy.

  Ziegler is a fill in for Michael Wiener (aka Michael Savage, who is not the creator of Rockstar Drinks). Enough said.

• 8 syvyn11 // Jun 10, 2009 at 10:30 pm

  WOW! What spin by lying liberals. You are outraged by Ziegler not kissing liberal ass, but you are silent when a liberal ‘comic’ talk show host insults a 14 year old girl because he has a problem with her mother.

  You liberal scum will defend the indefensible.

• 9 Sirico // Jun 10, 2009 at 11:19 pm

  A quote from David Letterman on EW.Com:

  “We were, as we often do, making jokes about people in the news and we made some jokes about Sarah Palin and her daughter [Bristol]… and now they’re upset with me…” Letterman says on tonight’s show. “These are not jokes made about her 14-year-old daughter. I would never, never make jokes about raping or having sex of any description with a 14-year-old girl…. Am I guilty of poor taste? Yes. Did I suggest that it was okay for her 14-year-old daughter to be having promiscuous sex? No.” Saying he hopes he’s “cleared part of this up,” Letterman extended an invitation to Palin to come on the show as a guest.

• 10 Sylar Q. Throckmorton // Jun 10, 2009 at 11:57 pm

  Any comments about Chelsea Clinton were off limits. I guess Willow was just “being pimped out” in a weird sort of way. No double standard there!

• 11 TaxMan // Jun 11, 2009 at 5:49 am

  KYGuy

  State Media vs. Rush – here is the difference

  Rush Limbaugh is a commentator who voices his opinion on a daily basis.

  NBC is a news organization who has instructed their employees to not be critical of Barack Obama’s policies.

  Unfortunately, many people do not know the difference between commentators and news.

• 12 Michael // Jun 11, 2009 at 8:09 am

  TaxMan,

  MSNBC differs from Fox how???? Left vs. Right….

• 13 jake // Jun 11, 2009 at 8:14 am

  Unfortunately, far too many people still think Fox News is a legitimate news organization.

  The hypocrisy is ripe these days, people.

• 14 KYGuy // Jun 11, 2009 at 9:20 am

  Taxman –
  Yes, I think it sucks that cable news is polarized. It’s just like you say.

  But this “state media” crap is just that, pure Limbaugh crap.

  I guess Bush having all the right-wing talkers (except Rush, of course, he’s too big) to the oval office on a regular basis to coordinate the propaganda didn’t approach “state run media” did it?

  Having Rove or Cheney on his program regularly didn’t make Rush a pimp for Bush, did it?

  Having Salem Radio give a litmus test to its employees to make sure they’ll never say anything against the right and always tow-the-line for Bush isn’t a problem for you?

  Having union busting Clear Channel ban records and instruct stations to go into hyper-patriotism mode after 9/11 didn’t bother you, I guess?

  One friggin cable network starts giving back what Fox has been dishing for years and your heads start exploding.

  Well, MSNBC goes over the line for me sometimes, too. But at least they’re not helping push the extremists to take up arms, which is Murdoch’s most recent crime against the American public.

• 15 KYGuy // Jun 11, 2009 at 9:24 am

  And lets get it right folks – Bristol Palin is 18 years old, not 14. She and her family stepped into the spotlight and that makes them fodder for comedy. Limbaugh savaged Chelsea Clinton and, for that matter, her mother. That was real funny stuff, wasn’t it?

• 16 Sylar Q. Throckmorton // Jun 11, 2009 at 10:03 am

  Glad to hear the strong defense of a rape joke about a 14-year old. Keep it classy. At least David Shuster was forcibly suspended after his crack about Chelsea.

• 17 syvyn11 // Jun 11, 2009 at 12:16 pm

  It doesn’t matter if it was Willow or Bristol. Either case you are defending the indefensible!

  All this shows is, like Letterman, you’re hatred of Ziegler/Palin is so blinding, you will excuse any attack to score points against you targets, damage be damned.

• 18 AB // Jun 11, 2009 at 12:36 pm

  “Unfortunately, far too many people still think Fox News is a legitimate news organization.”

  Fox News is no more illegitimate than MSNBC or The New York Times (though the NYT is the most hypocritical of all in that they still think they are a legitimate news organization).

• 19 Shane // Jun 11, 2009 at 12:51 pm

  KY Guy –

  Couple of things. When I said “tell it like it is” I meant that he’s not affraid to say what other people are thinking. …for his own benefit? Yes, definitely. And what I meant by too “big” for Louisville was that he needs to be in a place like LA were people are not impressed or could care less about his abrasive style. You can’t get away with that in Louisville…whether you agree with what he’s saying or not.

  Also, it was Palin’s 14 year old daughter (her name escapes me) that attened the baseball game, not her 18 year old. Even Letterman admits that he didn’t realize that.

• 20 Steve Magruder (I, not D or R) // Jun 11, 2009 at 5:05 pm

  Prove that Willow was at the baseball game. Go!

  Further, it’s obvious Letterman was referring to Bristol. Obvious.

  Sometimes I wonder if all right-wingers are interested in is muddying the waters of debate rather than rationally participating in it.

• 21 Steve Magruder (I, not D or R) // Jun 11, 2009 at 5:08 pm

  By the way, Bristol is not only an adult, but she is also a public figure by way of her documented entry into the fray of family planning politics.

  Bristol is fair game, yes, even for tasteless jokes.

• 22 syvyn11 // Jun 11, 2009 at 5:28 pm

  How long have you been a asshole Steve? And face facts, jerk. YOU ARE A LIB!

  There were many pics of The younger Palin with her mom at Yankee Stadium.

  Hey, how about your kids? How many times have they been raped?

  HA HAA HA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

  Ain’t that funny?

• 23 Steve Magruder (I, not D or R) // Jun 11, 2009 at 6:09 pm

  All I’m seeing are assertions from a coward.

• 24 Shane // Jun 11, 2009 at 6:37 pm

  Steve.
  Here’s a link the the LA Times story. …I guess one of the biggest papers on the planet was wrong.
  http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/06/sarah-palin-david-letterman-cbs-rape.html

  Enjoy!

• 25 Steve Magruder (I, not D or R) // Jun 11, 2009 at 7:42 pm

  Shane, that’s a blog entry, not a news report. Nice try.

  Further, David Letterman is far more trustworthy than Sarah Palin. Therefore, I can take him at his word he had meant to take on the adult politician Bristol Palin.

• 26 Sirico // Jun 11, 2009 at 8:50 pm

  -IMO, Letterman shouldn’t have left his statement as opened end like he did (which daughter?), however Sara Palin deserves equal guilt for using her family as props in trying to prove her “Soccer Mom” status.

  Once you drag family members into the public spotlight, unfortunately they become fair game for the media. Sara Palin seems to want to have it both ways.

• 27 Sirico // Jun 11, 2009 at 8:54 pm

  oops, make that Sarah Palin.

• 28 Steve Magruder (I, not D or R) // Jun 11, 2009 at 9:05 pm

  Yes, Letterman can be faithfully accused of clumsiness and tastelessness, no doubt.

  But what Sarah Palin is doing, suggesting that Letterman is a pedophile, is by far one of the most outrageous things I’ve seen since the McCain/Palin campaign with its inappropriate vitriol towards Obama.

  If Palin maintains this stance, Letterman may indeed have grounds for a defamation suit.

• 29 Sirico // Jun 11, 2009 at 9:10 pm

  If Palin maintains this stance, Letterman may indeed have grounds for a defamation suit.

  One can only hope…lol!

• 30 Crutnacker // Jun 11, 2009 at 10:48 pm

  I would argue the one who is really exploiting the child is Sarah Palin, by throwing the volatile word “rape” into the situation.

  Letterman made a cheap joke. I doubt that Letterman’s writers were studying who went with her and which kid was in attendance at Yankee Stadium. It was a cheap joke playing off of Sarah Palin’s daughter’s very public pregnancy in which one could argue Sarah exploited both her daughter and the father of the child by putting them front and center during appearances. Let’s not forget Sarah’s constant talking about her kids.

  Contrast that with Barack Obama’s refusal to let his kids be videotaped by the network that everyone claims worships him.

  Sarah Palin likes to play the victim. The fact is that she is an easy target because she’s an uneducated, backwoods, ignorant hillbilly who appears to have spent her life playing on her looks and her affected “aw shucks” demeanor to win votes. When you’re so bad that the Republican party wants nothing to do with you and a misogynistic jerk like Ziggy is your only friend, perhaps that should send a message.

  In the end, this works out well for both Palin and Letterman.

• 31 Sylar Q. Throckmorton // Jun 12, 2009 at 10:29 am

  Just TRY making a “cheap joke” about Obama’s kids.

• 32 KyGuy // Jun 12, 2009 at 12:02 pm

  Nothing funny about Obama’s kids. Believe me, if a laugh could be had the jokes would be written.

  Besides, I saw these jokes as more a knock against Elliot Spitzer and Rodriguez. Like Letterman said, how come they didn’t hear from them? The answer is that Ziggy hasn’t figured out a way to make hay out of it.

  I hear comedian Rush Limbaugh skewering Obama day-in-day-out with caustic parodies and racial stereotyping. But, take a shot at the hillbilly queen and the right rolls out this crap about rape and pedophiles.

  Maybe they have special insight considering their history of love notes to male interns and tap dancing in the men’s room.

• 33 Sylar Q. Throckmorton // Jun 12, 2009 at 1:00 pm

  Hey, didja hear the one about Malia and Sasha joyriding to New York on Air Force One?

  Anyway, Ziegler seems more interested in trashing MSNBC. Contessa Brewer needs to up her game on how to handle an arrogant guest.

• 34 syvyn11 // Jun 12, 2009 at 3:23 pm

  Sylar, remember that joke was told by President Barack Obama at the white house press corps dinner a few months back.

  So take that for what’s it’s worth.

  Brewer wanted a specific answer, one that Ziegler didn’t give. So she got pissed. She’s the arrogant ass!

• 35 syvyn11 // Jun 12, 2009 at 3:29 pm

  And on the John Gibson show on FoxNews talk radio, Ziegler was to be interviewed by someone else. At the last moment, they chaged it to Brewer. I think John could handle anyone at MSNBC with ease, including Kiethy poo.

  But Obly will never have anyone who doesn’t say “yes sir, whatever you say sir!”

• 36 Crutnacker // Jun 13, 2009 at 10:39 pm

  Yes, John can handle anyone with ease. Just shout a lot of crap, no matter what is being asked.

• 37 Jim // Jun 14, 2009 at 1:36 pm

  Sarah Palin has nothing to add to the political debate in this country. She should go back to being a good wife and running a state that is number one in being on the dole from the feds. One of the top states in getting federal funds per capita. Besides she should realize that there is more to knowing Russian foreign policy than just living across the Bering Sea.

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