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		<title>By: Insider With Knowledge</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/04/27/cityblock-owners-give-up/comment-page-1/#comment-48161</link>
		<dc:creator>Insider With Knowledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the closing of O&#039;Malley/City Block has actually very little to do with the city not willing to give Ward &amp; Don a government handout. Ward &amp; Don are using the Cordish situations and the mayor&#039;s &quot;plan&quot; has a scapegoat for very poor business decisions that started about 3 years ago. They borrowed heavily against the business for personal endeavors and to make changes to the club that were not very well thought out,researched or planned for the demographic that &quot;City Block&quot; actually appealed to. With owners,upper management and booking agents making extremely unethical both in the business and moral spectrum that had caused the club to be on a downward spiral that had very little to due with the weakening economy. You reap what you so Ward &amp; Don. I can only hope your personal finances are in as much turmoil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the closing of O&#8217;Malley/City Block has actually very little to do with the city not willing to give Ward &amp; Don a government handout. Ward &amp; Don are using the Cordish situations and the mayor&#8217;s &#8220;plan&#8221; has a scapegoat for very poor business decisions that started about 3 years ago. They borrowed heavily against the business for personal endeavors and to make changes to the club that were not very well thought out,researched or planned for the demographic that &#8220;City Block&#8221; actually appealed to. With owners,upper management and booking agents making extremely unethical both in the business and moral spectrum that had caused the club to be on a downward spiral that had very little to due with the weakening economy. You reap what you so Ward &amp; Don. I can only hope your personal finances are in as much turmoil.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabrina</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/04/27/cityblock-owners-give-up/comment-page-1/#comment-44447</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 04:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I can&#039;t believe this is Really true. I heard something about it over the radio. I have alot of memories at OMallies/City Block. And The whole under age thing wa snot such a bad idea
prolly owuld have made back cause there is only one more in Louisville. Im 20 now so i dont have to worry about stuff like that to much. But Anywho
Bullshit they are closing, Im glad i got one last time to go there before they close the doors
Gonna build another club Thats Prolly going to be way expensive to get it.
Fuck it. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I can&#8217;t believe this is Really true. I heard something about it over the radio. I have alot of memories at OMallies/City Block. And The whole under age thing wa snot such a bad idea<br />
prolly owuld have made back cause there is only one more in Louisville. Im 20 now so i dont have to worry about stuff like that to much. But Anywho<br />
Bullshit they are closing, Im glad i got one last time to go there before they close the doors<br />
Gonna build another club Thats Prolly going to be way expensive to get it.<br />
Fuck it. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Local Musician</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/04/27/cityblock-owners-give-up/comment-page-1/#comment-43258</link>
		<dc:creator>Local Musician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes....you&#039;d think.  Maybe that Okolona....err, Oklahoma  education didn&#039;t take?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8230;.you&#8217;d think.  Maybe that Okolona&#8230;.err, Oklahoma  education didn&#8217;t take?</p>
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		<title>By: Carter Burger</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/04/27/cityblock-owners-give-up/comment-page-1/#comment-43251</link>
		<dc:creator>Carter Burger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 12:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d think Toby Keith would also know how to spell his name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d think Toby Keith would also know how to spell his name.</p>
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		<title>By: Local Musician</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/04/27/cityblock-owners-give-up/comment-page-1/#comment-43181</link>
		<dc:creator>Local Musician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 00:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem - schmroblem......funding 1 niteclub venue over another is not the problem.   The way I see it, the tax base coming out of 4th street must have been substantially more than what the city was getting out of City Block.  It was probably a no-brainer decision for them. 

I&#039;ve been around long enough to know that the 4th street complex will eventually get old too, its&#039; tax revenue base will dry up, and they will close.  Then the city will be looking elsewhere to fund the next &quot;in-thing&quot;.  So, no....the politics involved here are nothing new.  While it may be distasteful, the only thing you and people like Ward can do about it is bitch and moan blissfully.  You can vote out the chumps.  But then what?  The cycle starts over and the &quot;good-ole-boy&quot; entrenches itself further.  It NEVER ends......

Bottom line, they will spend our money where they want, when they want, and how they want regardless.  

If you&#039;re a business owner, then you either grow or die.  If it stops moving forward even for a second, you&#039;re dead.   Business is strategy. Business requires hard work. Business requires thought. Business means taking chances.  City Block had every opportunity to strategize and operate their business as resourcefully as possible - AND - they could have utilized the local music scene as a resource and nurtured that relationship to create something special.  But that didn&#039;t happen.  So, again....you get what you give.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem &#8211; schmroblem&#8230;&#8230;funding 1 niteclub venue over another is not the problem.   The way I see it, the tax base coming out of 4th street must have been substantially more than what the city was getting out of City Block.  It was probably a no-brainer decision for them. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been around long enough to know that the 4th street complex will eventually get old too, its&#8217; tax revenue base will dry up, and they will close.  Then the city will be looking elsewhere to fund the next &#8220;in-thing&#8221;.  So, no&#8230;.the politics involved here are nothing new.  While it may be distasteful, the only thing you and people like Ward can do about it is bitch and moan blissfully.  You can vote out the chumps.  But then what?  The cycle starts over and the &#8220;good-ole-boy&#8221; entrenches itself further.  It NEVER ends&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Bottom line, they will spend our money where they want, when they want, and how they want regardless.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a business owner, then you either grow or die.  If it stops moving forward even for a second, you&#8217;re dead.   Business is strategy. Business requires hard work. Business requires thought. Business means taking chances.  City Block had every opportunity to strategize and operate their business as resourcefully as possible &#8211; AND &#8211; they could have utilized the local music scene as a resource and nurtured that relationship to create something special.  But that didn&#8217;t happen.  So, again&#8230;.you get what you give.</p>
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		<title>By: lt</title>
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		<dc:creator>lt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....You’re seeing local government spend YOUR TAX MONEY to drive local business owners under. That’s a problem…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.You’re seeing local government spend YOUR TAX MONEY to drive local business owners under. That’s a problem…</p>
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		<title>By: Local Musician</title>
		<link>http://thevillevoice.com/2009/04/27/cityblock-owners-give-up/comment-page-1/#comment-43016</link>
		<dc:creator>Local Musician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, Toby, if you really want me to think you&#039;re THE Toby Keith (as if you&#039;d take time to even put this site in your favorites list - let alone actively participate in it), then I&#039;ve got a Downtown Arena I&#039;d like to sell ya! 

If you are the &quot;real&quot; Toby, then big boy, last I heard, your home address was Nashville and Oklahoma - so that wouldn&#039;t make  you a local LOUISVILLE musician now would it?  You&#039;re a national star and of course Ward is going to treat you like royalty.  But more importantly, I may not be the brightest bulb in the Par Can, but I ain&#039;t dumb enough to believe your bullshit post anyway.

And Greg, you&#039;re missing the point.  Admittedly, I can&#039;t speak for the Blues bands too much. But I know there were country bands in Louisville such as Ron Peake and Open Country, Mike Lunsford, JD Black, Uncle Pecos, Wild Horses, Karen Kraft, and scores of others that ALL made a comfortable living playing the local clubs I mentioned in my original post.  All of those places I mentioned, plus even places like LaBo&#039;s in Lebanon Junction, ALL started losing business to Coyote&#039;s because of exactly what I mentioned previously. 

My point is that instead of Ward hiring these bands to play HIS club, he chose the DJ Format and promoted the hell out of their larger-than-life dance floor.  The LOCAL musicians were only offered opportunities to open concerts and even then, you barely made $50 each, which was nothing close to what we all made regularly from our other club gigs. 

Eventually, crowds diminished at the other clubs and soon, cutbacks occurred.  I&#039;ll never forget the day Village Pub closed, which was a staple in the local live country music scene and THE most recognized place to go if you wanted to listen to the best of the best locally (pre-Coyote&#039;s). Even AFTER they remodeled the place, put in new lights, sound system, and formed a house band.....they succumbed to the marketing and domination that Coyote&#039;s exuded.  The rest followed suit shortly thereafter.

So, for the past couple of months, I&#039;ve been trying to frequent a few places in Louisville. You know what I&#039;ve found? Nothing. I&#039;ve found Johnny Berry with Steve Cooley playing places like Longshots.  After all the talent this town had at one time and all the locations you could go to to enjoy your favorite local talent.....and the best place to go is a beer joint as big as my basement?  Naw...Ward isn&#039;t responsible for all of the downturn.  I&#039;m not saying that. But, by far, straining other clubs the way that he did certainly fueled the exit for most of them and as a resulte most of the talent this town had ended up with nowhere to play.   

Hey - here&#039;s a clue for ya...when Karen Kraft has to quit music to take a job as a real estate agent, what&#039;s that tell ya?

So, is turnabout fair play - absolutely - and you&#039;ll not convince me that I&#039;m wrong on this.  Regardless of the politics involved, Ward and City Block is getting a dose of its&#039; own medicine.  The upside is....this time no musicians are sacrificed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, Toby, if you really want me to think you&#8217;re THE Toby Keith (as if you&#8217;d take time to even put this site in your favorites list &#8211; let alone actively participate in it), then I&#8217;ve got a Downtown Arena I&#8217;d like to sell ya! </p>
<p>If you are the &#8220;real&#8221; Toby, then big boy, last I heard, your home address was Nashville and Oklahoma &#8211; so that wouldn&#8217;t make  you a local LOUISVILLE musician now would it?  You&#8217;re a national star and of course Ward is going to treat you like royalty.  But more importantly, I may not be the brightest bulb in the Par Can, but I ain&#8217;t dumb enough to believe your bullshit post anyway.</p>
<p>And Greg, you&#8217;re missing the point.  Admittedly, I can&#8217;t speak for the Blues bands too much. But I know there were country bands in Louisville such as Ron Peake and Open Country, Mike Lunsford, JD Black, Uncle Pecos, Wild Horses, Karen Kraft, and scores of others that ALL made a comfortable living playing the local clubs I mentioned in my original post.  All of those places I mentioned, plus even places like LaBo&#8217;s in Lebanon Junction, ALL started losing business to Coyote&#8217;s because of exactly what I mentioned previously. </p>
<p>My point is that instead of Ward hiring these bands to play HIS club, he chose the DJ Format and promoted the hell out of their larger-than-life dance floor.  The LOCAL musicians were only offered opportunities to open concerts and even then, you barely made $50 each, which was nothing close to what we all made regularly from our other club gigs. </p>
<p>Eventually, crowds diminished at the other clubs and soon, cutbacks occurred.  I&#8217;ll never forget the day Village Pub closed, which was a staple in the local live country music scene and THE most recognized place to go if you wanted to listen to the best of the best locally (pre-Coyote&#8217;s). Even AFTER they remodeled the place, put in new lights, sound system, and formed a house band&#8230;..they succumbed to the marketing and domination that Coyote&#8217;s exuded.  The rest followed suit shortly thereafter.</p>
<p>So, for the past couple of months, I&#8217;ve been trying to frequent a few places in Louisville. You know what I&#8217;ve found? Nothing. I&#8217;ve found Johnny Berry with Steve Cooley playing places like Longshots.  After all the talent this town had at one time and all the locations you could go to to enjoy your favorite local talent&#8230;..and the best place to go is a beer joint as big as my basement?  Naw&#8230;Ward isn&#8217;t responsible for all of the downturn.  I&#8217;m not saying that. But, by far, straining other clubs the way that he did certainly fueled the exit for most of them and as a resulte most of the talent this town had ended up with nowhere to play.   </p>
<p>Hey &#8211; here&#8217;s a clue for ya&#8230;when Karen Kraft has to quit music to take a job as a real estate agent, what&#8217;s that tell ya?</p>
<p>So, is turnabout fair play &#8211; absolutely &#8211; and you&#8217;ll not convince me that I&#8217;m wrong on this.  Regardless of the politics involved, Ward and City Block is getting a dose of its&#8217; own medicine.  The upside is&#8230;.this time no musicians are sacrificed.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TK&#039;s right.  I was a professional local musician back in the 80s &amp; 90s, and I disagree with Loco Musician.  In fact, Ward not only hired my band for over a year to play in Backstage Blues cafe on their slow night, he let us put on a benefit for charity in the main hall and didn&#039;t charge us anything.

There&#039;s nothing sinister in the way Ward&#039;s done business...and what&#039;s happening now is completely different.  You&#039;re seeing local government spend YOUR TAX MONEY to drive local business owners under.  That&#039;s a problem...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TK&#8217;s right.  I was a professional local musician back in the 80s &amp; 90s, and I disagree with Loco Musician.  In fact, Ward not only hired my band for over a year to play in Backstage Blues cafe on their slow night, he let us put on a benefit for charity in the main hall and didn&#8217;t charge us anything.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing sinister in the way Ward&#8217;s done business&#8230;and what&#8217;s happening now is completely different.  You&#8217;re seeing local government spend YOUR TAX MONEY to drive local business owners under.  That&#8217;s a problem&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Toby Kieth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby Kieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Local Musician?    What a self serving comment to make that owner ward look like a bad guy!......No! NO! NO!.....just not so, I played Coyotes a number of times and was always treated like a friend and welcomed  warmly by the owners and their staff, every time.....I played they early on with Shania Twain, and along the time frame of many to grace the stage that have become huge Stars. It&#039;s guys like Ward that have worked their Ass off to produce such an agressive attempt with no help from  anyone, and funded by their own hard work,knowledge, and skills.
   What they demonstrated was the passion,hustle, and desire to win &amp; grow!.....They are smart enough to see that they can&#039;t outspend the City.......Enough said,,,,If any of you young turks think you have even 20% of the smarts ,juice,ability that those guys displayed for over 35 years in all. I&#039;d think you should jump into action and contact ward or don,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Local Musician?    What a self serving comment to make that owner ward look like a bad guy!&#8230;&#8230;No! NO! NO!&#8230;..just not so, I played Coyotes a number of times and was always treated like a friend and welcomed  warmly by the owners and their staff, every time&#8230;..I played they early on with Shania Twain, and along the time frame of many to grace the stage that have become huge Stars. It&#8217;s guys like Ward that have worked their Ass off to produce such an agressive attempt with no help from  anyone, and funded by their own hard work,knowledge, and skills.<br />
   What they demonstrated was the passion,hustle, and desire to win &amp; grow!&#8230;..They are smart enough to see that they can&#8217;t outspend the City&#8230;&#8230;.Enough said,,,,If any of you young turks think you have even 20% of the smarts ,juice,ability that those guys displayed for over 35 years in all. I&#8217;d think you should jump into action and contact ward or don,</p>
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		<title>By: Local Musician</title>
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		<dc:creator>Local Musician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this interesting. When Coyote&#039;s and the other bars opened back in the 90&#039;s, Ward held a no-holds barred assault on the local club scene. He undercut drink prices versus other local clubs. He announced he had the biggest dance floors. He had Coyote Calhoun involved on a grand scale.  He had huge headliner concerts and held them more often. He threw advertising money around like water and cornered the nightclub craze in Louisville. 

I was once a professional musician playing in a high profile group in this town and earning a very nice living doing so BEFORE Coyote&#039;s. Now, I look around......there&#039;s about 1/4 of live music this town once had and many of the city&#039;s best musicians hardly even play out anymore -including me.  Why? Because Ward Plauche didn&#039;t support the live local music scene.   And now as a result, we no longer have a burgeoning music scene like we once had.  Gone are places like Flaherty&#039;s, Village Pub, Sahara Niteclub, the Toy Tiger, Colonial Gardens.....and many more....all staunch supporters of local musicians and live music - many of which featured live music 4 nights a week or more!!!

So, while I understand everyone&#039;s gripe over the Cordish thing, all they did was figure a way to beat Ward at a game that he once played very well and now, he&#039;s the one retreating exactly the same way he forced other clubs to retreat.  

I&#039;m sorry, Ward, but you get no sympathy from me. All you did was make an easy target for someone with more saviness and obviously more money than you to knock you off the mountain.  Perhaps you should have thought of that 20 years ago when you were underpaying all of us and treating us as second-class citizens.  Had you handled that differently, maybe some of us musicians would have survived with our fan following in tact and perhaps come to your aid in a time of need.  You get what you give, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this interesting. When Coyote&#8217;s and the other bars opened back in the 90&#8242;s, Ward held a no-holds barred assault on the local club scene. He undercut drink prices versus other local clubs. He announced he had the biggest dance floors. He had Coyote Calhoun involved on a grand scale.  He had huge headliner concerts and held them more often. He threw advertising money around like water and cornered the nightclub craze in Louisville. </p>
<p>I was once a professional musician playing in a high profile group in this town and earning a very nice living doing so BEFORE Coyote&#8217;s. Now, I look around&#8230;&#8230;there&#8217;s about 1/4 of live music this town once had and many of the city&#8217;s best musicians hardly even play out anymore -including me.  Why? Because Ward Plauche didn&#8217;t support the live local music scene.   And now as a result, we no longer have a burgeoning music scene like we once had.  Gone are places like Flaherty&#8217;s, Village Pub, Sahara Niteclub, the Toy Tiger, Colonial Gardens&#8230;..and many more&#8230;.all staunch supporters of local musicians and live music &#8211; many of which featured live music 4 nights a week or more!!!</p>
<p>So, while I understand everyone&#8217;s gripe over the Cordish thing, all they did was figure a way to beat Ward at a game that he once played very well and now, he&#8217;s the one retreating exactly the same way he forced other clubs to retreat.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, Ward, but you get no sympathy from me. All you did was make an easy target for someone with more saviness and obviously more money than you to knock you off the mountain.  Perhaps you should have thought of that 20 years ago when you were underpaying all of us and treating us as second-class citizens.  Had you handled that differently, maybe some of us musicians would have survived with our fan following in tact and perhaps come to your aid in a time of need.  You get what you give, I suppose.</p>
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